FTO's are addictive, even for ex-owners!!

[adrian]

Just noticed, any time I look online for cars in car sales web sites or in the paper which I do a couple of times a week I ALWAYS look for FTO's. I also still flash at other FTO's even though I don't have one anymore. Sad? Maybe, but true. Not many cars are so addictive.

A

[Dave]

do true, i always look in the buy and sell every week at what's on sale! plus i may be putting the skyline on the back burner, looking at a turbo kit for my baby, nme performance are authorised dealers for rpw and they are irish based! maybe an option!!

[CJ]

maybe an option!!

Just a thought Dave, but you could buy a GPX for the money you'd end up spending on a turbo kit and having it properly fitted. In saying that, no ones turboed a GS in Ireland or the UK (AFAIK) so it would be a pretty unique car.

Ciaran

[mark]

Actually I saw a 1.8 turbo in CBG a couple of weeks ago- 7500e. Was going to have a drive but didnt get time. Dont have the number but the car looked like it might have just come in from Japan.

[Dave]

haven't even gotten a price yet so waiting to see what the story is first, i'm sure i could pick up a gpx but depending on what kind of power i could get i may stay with the "turbo" gs, would be unique alright!!

[soc]

Actually I saw a 1.8 turbo in CBG a couple of weeks ago- 7500e. Was going to have a drive but didnt get time. Dont have the number but the car looked like it might have just come in from Japan.

This was down in Edenderry - my gran lives down there. I'm not sure how "good" that car is - but don't quote me on that.

[Myfeckin FTO]

I rang that guy in Edenderry a few weeks ago. The car is just a standard 96 GS with a "Turbo 2 Spoiler" whatever thats supposed to mean. He had advertised it as an FTO Turbo 2 in CBG - I was looking for a manual GPX at the time and my curiousity got the better of me. When I called him he also said he was looking for 11,000Euro at the time - needless to say it is still for sale at the rather lower (but still inflated) price of 7,000Euro.

Have to agree and say you are way better off buying a manual GPX than trying to do anything with a GS. I had a Tip GR for a year and have to say that the manual GPX is on a different planet - especially top-end power.

[Speedyboy]

I had a Tip GR for a year and have to say that the manual GPX is on a different planet - especially top-end power

Is there really that much of a difference? Someone will have to bring me for a spin in one someday never thought there was that much of a difference.,

[Dave]

yeah true alright but the money and time waiting on a decent manual gpx and then transfering all my mods over would still cost a ton! plus then i would have something that not many others have, well not in ireland anyways!

[soc]

yeah true alright but the money and time waiting on a decent manual gpx and then transfering all my mods over would still cost a ton! plus then i would have something that not many others have, well not in ireland anyways!

why not buy the mivec engine, manual box & GPX calipers from Rory and then get it all fitted? Probably cost you a couple of grand but you'd have one hell of a car then.

[Dave]

i talked to IVI about doing this before and they advised not to do it, reckoned it would be far too much work and i'd be better off buying one and transfering everything across.
so there's a few options, buy a gpx and transfer, buy a new car altogether or just get a couple of turbo's fitted

[Myfeckin FTO]

I had a Tip GR for a year and have to say that the manual GPX is on a different planet - especially top-end power

Is there really that much of a difference? Someone will have to bring me for a spin in one someday never thought there was that much of a difference.,

Speedyboy,

Not trying to knock the Tip GR - I had a very clean 20K mile TIP GR for over a year and loved every minute of it - certainly doesn't lack for performance - but I know my best mate could beat my TIP GR on a quarter mile run in his scooby (standard WRX 215BHP) but not any longer.
After the initial traction trick of the Scooby its all one way traffic past 40MPH as the FTO comes into its own.
(All done on a track of course )

This probably comes down to power (at the flywheel) to weight -
My Manual Mivec has approx 175BHP per Ton (give or take a couple of bhp) while his Scooby has 158BHP per Ton (extra 185 Kgs mostly due to 4WD mechanicals).

Would say the Mivec manual has about 2 secs on a TIP GR to 60MPH and at least 4-5 secs to 100MPH. This is a fairly recognisable difference when driving.

If you are ever in the Limerick area you are more than welcome to take mine for a spin.

[soc]

Would say the Mivec manual has about 2 secs on a TIP GR to 60MPH and at least 4-5 secs to 100MPH. This is a fairly recognisable difference when driving.

Is it really that much difference 0-60mph? I thought there was only a half a second or so - if it is 2 seconds difference then I'm getting a manual cause I'd say the biggest difference is from having the manual box. Look at the UK 1/4 mile league and there is a lot of manual GR's up there in the to 10.

[CJ]

Is it really that much difference 0-60mph?

Theres about a 1.5 - 2 sec difference up to 60mph Between a manual GPX and a Tip GR, in saying that, it can be hard to measure because of all of the vaiables. Check Martin Whiles 0-60 sprint league, theres only one Tip GR listed so it doesn't paint a full picture, however. If you picked 5 man GPXs and 5 tip GRs and averaged out the results, you'd see the former in the early 7's while the latter would be in the mid to late 8's. Its not really comparing like with like though, what you want is results between manual vs manual and tip vs tip, at the end of the day, the gearbox type has more influence over 0-60 times than anything else.

CJ

[soc]

Is it really that much difference 0-60mph?

Theres about a 1.5 - 2 sec difference up to 60mph Between a manual GPX and a Tip GR, in saying that, it can be hard to measure because of all of the vaiables. Check Martin Whiles 0-60 sprint league, theres only one Tip GR listed so it doesn't paint a full picture, however. If you picked 5 man GPXs and 5 tip GRs and averaged out the results, you'd see the former in the early 7's while the latter would be in the mid to late 8's. Its not really comparing like with like though, what you want is results between manual vs manual and tip vs tip, at the end of the day, the gearbox type has more influence over 0-60 times than anything else.

CJ

wow - having never driven a manual FTO I didn't realise - well, I'd better get myself a manual.... come to think of it a 225bhp TT sounds bloody fast now at 6.5 secs to 60mph!!!!!

[CJ]

come to think of it a 225bhp TT sounds bloody fast now at 6.5 secs to 60mph!!!!!

Theres a few manuals out there that have done 0-60 runs in 6.3 seconds, I would say it would be very close contest between the two...

CJ

[adrian]

wow - having never driven a manual FTO I didn't realise - well, I'd better get myself a manual.... come to think of it a 225bhp TT sounds bloody fast now at 6.5 secs to 60mph!!!!!

Or a 6-speed manual S2000 242BHP 0-60 in 5.8! Go on, you know it makes sense

[Dave]

or a vx220 turbo which does it in 4.7 secs flat. (pity it;s a vauxhall)

[philip]

I had a Tip GR for a year and have to say that the manual GPX is on a different planet - especially top-end power

Is there really that much of a difference? Someone will have to bring me for a spin in one someday never thought there was that much of a difference.,

Speedyboy I live in Galway be more than happy to meet up and give ya spin. have 96 gpx manual be nice to compare.

[RobJ]

I took the VX220 Turbo for a blast....souped up go-kart, no other way to describe it. Plastered a grin on my face for hours.

My mate over here in the UK has a Scooby, 340bhp i think was last number he quoted at me but he's forever changing it, does it in about 4.7 also and keeps going up to 150, pure power

[Dave]

i can only imagine!!