Underbody rust

[witcher]

I am putting my mitsi apart soon for total renovation and I was considering sandblasting the undercarriage. any cons of doing it???

[Mustang]

Got both front arches done,
My local panel beater used plates to patch it up before welding and sealing it
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php? ... s248p58283

I'm guessing this would be easy enough for a competant welder/ panel beater. Care to tell us how much it cost?

Welding the rear chassis legs, in particular looks like a tricky job to me, it's not a simple case of cut out a section and weld in a plate in it's place as the area is not flat.

Rear chassis legs are next on the agenda
There not too badly priced on camskil

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php? ... s248p58283

I didn't realise these could be bought as a spare, As I said above I couldn't quite understand (and still don't actually) how these can be replaced as it's a relatively conplex shape and not a flat section of plate.

What's the procedure for replacing the chassis leg?

Cut of the old one and just weld a new one in it's place (assuming the base surface/floor is intact and will take some weld).

Cut out a whole section of floor -including the chassis leg. weld a plate in place to repair the floor, and then weld the leg onto that new section?

Did you get a quote for this work also?

[jayod12b]

Yes it seems to the case mustang that youve to cut out the old section and get a new section spotted in
One of moderators in the uk got it done not so long ago

http://www.ftooc.org/forum/showthread.p ... assis+legs

I havent got a quote off my panel beater yet for this work but im sure hed be reasonable
Charged me 100euro for both wheel arches to be plated and welded

[sinlessgunner]

Mustang I had it done that time. As far as I could see he just plated the problem areas. Good job too very cleanly done. Cost €160 as I said before. My mate that cleaned it up (wire brushing, sealing etc) said it was a good job and the NCT lad said it was sound.

Not a big job, get a price before changing the entire thing I reckon. I just found it difficult to find someone to do it.

Hope that helps!

[Sebastian]

me again.

Could you pass on that guy's details ?

Or does anyone know someone who could weld some plates on the chassis legs in Dublin area ?

[Sebastian]

Went to a garage on nass rd over the weekend there and got quoted 350 + for parts and labour
that's a bit too much isn't it? guy said he will only take down the exhaust back box, and will need about half a day to do it .

Too rich me thinks ...
Will try another one next weekend

[Kace]

A bit rich is right - I wish I had a job like that €700 per day !!!

What parts is he talking about - 2 pieces of angle iron ??

[Sebastian]

What parts is he talking about - 2 pieces of angle iron ??

My thoughts also ....

[DubC]

Sorry for bumping an old thread but I'm in need of a welder to do some work on the chassis legs. Of those of you who have had work done, could you recommend anyone for the job?

[optical illusion]

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[Kace]

Got stung at the NCT for the rusted chassis legs. The feckers doing the test were under the car with hammers before calling me out to tell me the bad news.

Anyone got any good experiences and prices around Dublin for this job ? Sebastian who did you go to in the end ?

[goz_83]

Got stung at the NCT for the rusted chassis legs. The feckers doing the test were under the car with hammers before calling me out to tell me the bad news.

Anyone got any good experiences and prices around Dublin for this job ? Sebastian who did you go to in the end ?

I was only at GVD today talking about getting my car fixed, including chassis, so maybe give them a call. The nearside rear on mine needs to be cut off and replaced. Prices are always good. What parts do you need sorted?

[Kace]

Yeah - it's the offside chassis leg in my case. Had rust in two places (even though it had been sealed up with schultz a couple of years ago). Might bring it to the local guy right beside me first to see what he says. If I don't trust what he is saying then I will bring to GVD (as it's a bit of a drive over).

Has anyone had any experience going into the NCT with welded chassis legs ? NCT guy I was talking to indicated that it needed to be restored 'back to original condition' - this worries me.

[goz_83]

NCT guy I was talking to indicated that it needed to be restored 'back to original condition' - this worries me.

Once welded properly and then sealed, it would be hard to find the weld. If the leg from Deans FTO is good, you can have it. Its the other one i need. Well.....first i need the car

[Kace]

Thanks - I didn't realise that these arms are just replaceable. So is it really a welding job at all or is it just a parts replacement ? Keen to hear from anyone who has either replaced the arms or done some welding on these things - NCT guys were indicating that it might not be 'economical' to fix these things.

[goz_83]

It's a weld job alright

[mivecrx]

You will need to fix it to a safe standard, after all it is the chassis and any bad repair will make it weak and dangerous. If it's not bad just get the rust cut out and replace it with steel plates or a patch from another fto chassis that's not rusty, I would go with some good gauge steel tho. If it's beyond that then it's not worth fixing, also any welding carried out should be left visible and not covered with sealer for the nct.

[goz_83]

You will need to fix it to a safe standard, after all it is the chassis and any bad repair will make it weak and dangerous. If it's not bad just get the rust cut out and replace it with steel plates or a patch from another fto chassis that's not rusty, I would go with some good gauge steel tho. If it's beyond that then it's not worth fixing, also any welding carried out should be left visible and not covered with sealer for the nct.

We are talking about the nct here. The muppets try to fail ftos on anything they can (in dublin anyway). Why should any part of the underbody be left unprotected from further corrosion? I say seal it up. A competent tester will see the weld and be able to inspect it even if it is protected. And competent testers seem to be in short supply.

[mivecrx]

We are talking about the nct here. The muppets try to fail ftos on anything they can (in dublin anyway). Why should any part of the underbody be left unprotected from further corrosion? I say seal it up. A competent tester will see the weld and be able to inspect it even if it is protected. And competent testers seem to be in short supply.

I don't know if they don't like ftos in Dublin or not, maybe they don't like any sports car, seems that way all over Ireland. Bad rust on a chassis leg is hardly unfair to fail a car on, fto or not.
It's impossible to see weld under under seal so the tester can't see the repair, if he passes it without seeing a good repair then that's not acceptable. There's people out there who will do anything but fix rust the correct way and hide it with sealer before selling on a car, the nct cuts this out and protects buyers from getting fooled with a dangerous car.

[goz_83]

We are talking about the nct here. The muppets try to fail ftos on anything they can (in dublin anyway). Why should any part of the underbody be left unprotected from further corrosion? I say seal it up. A competent tester will see the weld and be able to inspect it even if it is protected. And competent testers seem to be in short supply.

I don't know if they don't like ftos in Dublin or not, maybe they don't like any sports car, seems that way all over Ireland. Bad rust on a chassis leg is hardly unfair to fail a car on, fto or not.
It's impossible to see weld under under seal so the tester can't see the repair, if he passes it without seeing a good repair then that's not acceptable. There's people out there who will do anything but fix rust the correct way and hide it with sealer before selling on a car, the nct cuts this out and protects buyers from getting fooled with a dangerous car.

The nct cuts down on certain things, but cuts nothing out. There are still people in the nct centres that will take €100 and give you a pass cert without even looking at the car. Never used these services personally, but after the whole hid and emissions fiasco, I would understand why someone would. In the case above, the job will be done properly, as I am sure Kace will not be interested in a half ar$e job. In my opinion, a weld, or exposed metal for that matter should be protected right away, before rust starts in again.

@Kace: I collected that fto from Dean today. If you need the driver side chassis leg, the car is up at GVD. Just tell George it's ok to use the leg off it to fix yours (if you are getting him to do it). I'm not looking for anything for the part, but i'm sure the welding won't be free.

[brccrx]

It's impossible to see weld under under seal so the tester can't see the repair, if he passes it without seeing a good repair then that's not acceptable. There's people out there who will do anything but fix rust the correct way and hide it with sealer before selling on a car, the nct cuts this out and protects buyers from getting fooled with a dangerous car.

Lol. You surely mention about welding required when you sold the white asti?

100% genuine

[mivecrx]

It's impossible to see weld under under seal so the tester can't see the repair, if he passes it without seeing a good repair then that's not acceptable. There's people out there who will do anything but fix rust the correct way and hide it with sealer before selling on a car, the nct cuts this out and protects buyers from getting fooled with a dangerous car.

Lol. You surely mention about welding required when you sold the white asti?

100% genuine

Sold two white astis, all info I knew about both cars was passed on to the buyers. Broke two mivecs that I wouldn't sell on, rusty lancer was one.

Got stung with one tho, some foreign clown sold me a car with loads of problems. His diy skills ran out when he took a grinder to the back suspension.

[Kace]

@Kace: I collected that fto from Dean today. If you need the driver side chassis leg, the car is up at GVD. Just tell George it's ok to use the leg off it to fix yours (if you are getting him to do it). I'm not looking for anything for the part, but i'm sure the welding won't be free.

Cheers Goz - I will give George a call to let him know. I just need to get my car down to him and work out how to commute out of there back to Fairview once I leave it with him.

How are those guys for getting work done in a reasonable timeframe ? I'm on a deadline with the dreaded NCT of course.

Edit: Just found out - GVD very very busy at present. Can't do any work on my machine for more than 2 weeks.

[brccrx]

It's impossible to see weld under under seal so the tester can't see the repair, if he passes it without seeing a good repair then that's not acceptable. There's people out there who will do anything but fix rust the correct way and hide it with sealer before selling on a car, the nct cuts this out and protects buyers from getting fooled with a dangerous car.

Lol. You surely mention about welding required when you sold the white asti?

100% genuine

Sold two white astis, all info I knew about both cars was passed on to the buyers. Broke two mivecs that I wouldn't sell on, rusty lancer was one.

Got stung with one tho, some foreign clown sold me a car with loads of problems. His diy skills ran out when he took a grinder to the back suspension.

You only get what U deserve for, when You break Your word and rip someone of even for a small amount of money You become something worse than "clown"

Im sure You never told a single thing about the white asti even tho You knew everything as so called clown told You all about it when he discover it. And keep lying that he went with grinder on something when he haven't touch it.
Now You blame him for being honest, some genuione (not genuine) lad You are haha

Sorry for ot lads

[goz_83]

Cool it lads. And there's no need for racist remarks mivecrx.

@Kace

They are quite busy at the moment, I know. They can't start working on my car until July. George is waiting for another guy to start working there end of June. It's too busy for himself and Robbie, but I noticed another guy working there yesterday, doing a bit of wet sanding. They're just doing small