1990 type Porsche 911

[adrian]

Hi all,

In the process of deciding on what to get next. I rarely use the S2000 since the baby has come along so am changing it... on list is A4 cabrio, RX7, FTO, TT etc

However, an attractive prospect is a 1990 911... Nash insure them as classic (500 a year comp insurance, 4k miles allowed etc) and since I do very few mile (cycle to work etc) it would fit the bill well. Anyone any experience of importing an older porsche?? Would you be buying trouble? I would need t spend about 15k sterling for something decent.... or something like this either:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/131385.htm

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/137929.htm

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/137177.htm

VRT would be about 3,500.....

Am I mad or is this a sweet move?

[Muad_dib77]

You're mad - but I like it..

having a classic car for occasional use makes sense..

Road tax is something like 40e - Insurance is nothing - and NCT is optional as far as I remember.

Porches are lovely cars.. Wouldn't mind one myself - but for now I sticking with the FTO.

[adrian]

they have to be 30 years old to qualify for classic Tax, 50 euros... and no NCT etc... this 1990 model would need full 3.6 litre tax...

[Mustang]

Road tax is something like 40e - Insurance is nothing - and NCT is optional as far as I remember.

Do not confuse tax and insurance. Some insurers will insure old cars as "classics" usualy needs to be around 20 years old although I don't think this is written in stone.
To be deemed a classic in the eye's of the revenue and thus pay only minimal VRT and motor tax the car has to be 30 years old.

[Bernard]

Isn't there a difference there between classic and vintage?
As far as I can remember ones 20 years and the other is 30, I could be wrong...

[Muad_dib77]

Road tax is something like 40e - Insurance is nothing - and NCT is optional as far as I remember.

Do not confuse tax and insurance. Some insurers will insure old cars as "classics" usualy needs to be around 20 years old although I don't think this is written in stone.
To be deemed a classic in the eye's of the revenue and thus pay only minimal VRT and motor tax the car has to be 30 years old.

Oh I thought it was 20 years .. there goes that pipe-dream out the window..

[adrian]

I called Nash Insurance about a 1990. I can get classic insurance on it, but the road tax will be full whack... so, it's all a bit confusing.

But, has anyone heard horror stories of anything like this... I am a bit worried about buying trouble ya see

[Mustang]

I called Nash Insurance about a 1990. I can get classic insurance on it, but the road tax will be full whack... so, it's all a bit confusing.

But, has anyone heard horror stories of anything like this... I am a bit worried about buying trouble ya see

If you are serious, get yourself on some porsche owners forums, and see what issues exist with these cars. I would create a short list of potential candidates, talk to the seller and if ineterested get them vetted by an independant specialist. They should be reliable enough but ultimately they are just old cars, and sometimes not manitained properly. The extra money spend on an inspection would be well worth it IMO. The wrong car could be a money pit.
Surely the sale of the S2000 and purchase of a £15k +VRT caris not going to release much (if any) money??

[adrian]

Surely the sale of the S2000 and purchase of a £15k +VRT car is not going to release much (if any) money??

I know...I just realsied when I was looking about that the choice of a ~10k car was too limited... and then I got looking, and then I feel in love with these 911's etc etc

You know youself, a petrol head can not make any logical decisions.... I THINK this is what I want to do but am confused....

[CJ]

I THINK this is what I want to do but am confused....

You had different ideas in your head yesterday Adrian

As I mentioned to you, pick a handful of cars in your budget (be strict on this point) and score them out of 10 in a number of key areas, add up the scorespick the winner and then start searching for the right car (which could take some time). Doing your homework on niche cars like is key....

CJ

[soc]

Mate, go for it - I love the Porsche 964. I've a really good buying guide from Total Porsche or Total 911 at home plus some articles on common problems - I believe the one to watch for is the Rear Main Seal (RMS) which can fail and leak oil - it's an engine out job I think. Apart from that the 3.6 litre engine is supposed to be bomb proof if looked after well (as opposed to the 3.4 of the earlier 964's which is supposed to be a bit less reliable).

If you want give me a shout some day and i'll bring the mags in so you can borrow them and have a read about what's involved....

My plan has always been to get a 911 and I'm hoping that will happen in the next 2 years - initially I wanted a 964 but I don't think i could live with the interior so I'm hoping 996 prices drop enough over the next 18 - 24 months

[adrian]

You had different ideas in your head yesterday Adrian

i know cj, my head is wrecked. rex still on my list, but i am a bit afraid of them!!

thanks so much shane... i will be in touch! I would loce to see those

[soc]

I THINK this is what I want to do but am confused....

You had different ideas in your head yesterday Adrian

Sounds like you're the same as me....

As I mentioned to you, pick a handful of cars in your budget (be strict on this point) and score them out of 10 in a number of key areas, add up the scorespick the winner and then start searching for the right car (which could take some time). Doing your homework on niche cars like is key....

CJ

Good idea - its the research you do once you've decided what car you want that's important..... I've been researching the 911 for about 18 months now (I wish).... but with the TT I started reading up and following the TT forum about 10 months before I bought anything.

[adrian]

I've been researching the 911 for about 18 months now

We need to talk shane! I will sponge that info out of you!

[soc]

I've been researching the 911 for about 18 months now

We need to talk shane! I will sponge that info out of you!

Just say the word - I'll bring in the pile of 911 mags I have at home - you'll get buckets of info from them - all about the different models, what to watch for, gearbox types, different engines, etc. Plus owners experiences.......


As MfFTO mentioned in the 944 thread - there would be some maintenance costs but if you get a good 911 it wouldn't be that bad compared to an FTO (I did the sums before and I was suprised by how little the difference could be).

[soc]

I always found compucars to be a good reference point when I was considering imorting a TT - usually only list good cars with garages that have been checked....

http://www.compucars.co.uk/search.asp?m ... =price_asc