FTO Superchip

[Diddler]

Guys,

Was talking to Ed O'Brien in Turbotech, who informed me recently that there will be a an add on programmable power chip giving you around 20 bhp, available in the next 2 weeks.
The cost is Eur 599 incl fitting ,programming and Vat.

How that 4 ya'll?

[soc]

Guys,

Was talking to Ed O'Brien in Turbotech, who informed me recently that there will be a an add on programmable power chip giving you around 20 bhp, available in the next 2 weeks.
The cost is Eur 599 incl fitting ,programming and Vat.

How that 4 ya'll?

I'd be pretty skeptical of any chip that claims to add 20bhp to an N/A car particularly the FTO - it's been well proven over the years that Mitsubishi have done such a good job of tuning the FTO's V6 that it's extremely difficult to squeeze much extra power from it.

I'd imagine some of the other longer term owners (CJ, Daz) would confirm this......

[CJ]

I'd imagine some of the other longer term owners (CJ, Daz) would confirm this......

Agreed, most electonic gadgetry available for the FTO generally doesn't live up to the manufacturers claims. As Shane has said, Mitsi engineered the V6 engined FTOs to a high state of tune, theres very little out there that will give you significant increases for under €4k (turbo, supercharger etc).
As regards the 20bhp increase, I'll believe it when I see a before and after dyno report!

CJ

[Daz]

I'd imagine some of the other longer term owners (CJ, Daz) would confirm this......

Oh yea i'd agree with that, 20 bhp..... not going to happen
the engine was so finely tuned to start with you'd be luck if you managed to squeeze 2 bhp let alone 20

Daz...

[Sharkeyd]

Well the easiest and cheapest way to squeese 10-15 extra HP from your FTO is to fit a good quality Air filter such as a HKS and fit a straight through exhaust.

Improving the airflow through the engine to allow it to rev more easily.

You could get both second hand pretty cheap from Japan.

[Daz]

Well the easiest and cheapest way to squeese 10-15 extra HP from your FTO is to fit a good quality Air filter such as a HKS and fit a straight through exhaust.

Improving the airflow through the engine to allow it to rev more easily.

You could get both second hand pretty cheap from Japan.

Sorry to say but that ain't the case either as we proved on our last rolling road day a standard filter gave better performance than a aftermarket induction kit nowadays all this add this filter add this zorst it will get you 10-20 bhp gains is pure crap.... and just to further prove the point i was at a rolling road day in england about 3 years ago and one owner had fitted a custom made induction kit with piping all the way down to infront of the radiators to get as much air in as possible and had a s/s cat bypassed zorst and when it was put on the rolling road (it was a gpx by the way) it was the worst performing car there even a gs bet it, so they ripped all the induction kit out and fitted someone elses filter and the power came right back up.

And not that it is really needed but just to further press the point home ford have always made cars that were simple and so were easy to fix (just as well and i love some fords uumm mustang ) and modify to the extreem. but in the 80's the xr's were all the rage and a test was carried out on a xr2 as reguards zorsts and it was discovered that ford had made the xr's so well that the standard zorst gave the best results and that the 5 different aftermarket zorsts thay tried, all reduced the bhp.

All the good that aftermarket filter and exhausts do is cosmetic, they sound good and they look god but they very rarely improve a cars performance.

Daz...

[Sharkeyd]

Take a look at: http://www.ftooc.org/contents/index.html

navigate to special products.

They did a group test on air filters. I couldnt link directly to the section on air filters but you can find it easy enough.

Quote:

"Engines need three things to make them work, fuel, air and a spark. To gain more power the engine needs more fuel to flow into each cylinder. The FTO is fortunate in that the ECU constantly calculates the air/fuel ratio by monitoring the exhaust gasses using a lambda/oxygen sensor. The ECU then adjusts the fuel input accordingly. So to get more fuel all you have to do is introduce more air into the equation and the ECU will adapt. This is why an air filter is one of the first modification most people do to their FTO "



"HKS, Super Power Flow, nicknamed the "green hairnet" by some. Maybe not after today. It has been "engineered to dramatically reduce inlet restrictions" and boy does it ! On one of the runs this filter gave a whopping 199 bhp Thats 9-10 more than standard. Which makes it our
Best Bhp Filter "



This is the official UK FTO owners club website, these guys are serious about their ftos so I dout its Bulshit.

From personal experience my brother fitted this HKS air filter to his 1.6 litre mivec Lancer. There is a noticible improvement. In any case it sounds awesome when the mivec kicks in and the cams switch .

In this report, there were many air filters that make very little improvement and some actually had negative results. What air filter did you use when you tried this?

I have also heard negative things about intercoolers in FTOs , Like you said Mitisubishi already tricked out the V6.

[Daz]

This is the official UK FTO owners club website, these guys are serious about their ftos so I dout its Bulshit.

From personal experience my brother fitted this HKS air filter to his 1.6 litre mivec Lancer. There is a noticible improvement. In any case it sounds awesome when the mivec kicks in and the cams switch .

In this report, there were many air filters that make very little improvement and some actually had negative results. What air filter did you use when you tried this?

I have also heard negative things about intercoolers in FTOs , Like you said Mitisubishi already tricked out the V6.

Yes it is the owners club website, and yes they know their stuff, i have the pleasure of knowing most of those guy's personally i have been over to england on several occaisions for meets including JAE ( where urhum I won FTO of show in 2002 ) so i think it's fair to say that i too am serious about my FTO (oh and did i forget to mention that i own two ) so i think it's fair to say i won't bullsh*t you either, same as anyone else on this forum,... it's about helping one another and giving opinions, which is fair to say were both doing.

All i'm saying is don't believe the hype about the gains that your going to get. you may get some but not huge gains stated and anyway they said they got 199 bhp with that filter a gain of

On one of the runs this filter gave a whopping 199 bhp Thats 9-10 more than standard.

well thats incorrect for a start as standard FTO bhp is 197.(GPX/GPvR) and as they said that was one of the runs, what you have got to ask is how many runs did they do was it consistant or was it just a once off up at the bhp figure.

As you said yourself

In this report, there were many air filters that make very little improvement and some actually had negative results.

Thats the way it is most of the time with aftermarket filters, and the filter i used was K&N and they are reguarded as one of the best around in this field.

At the end of the day, i'm just saying that i believe that the claims for increases is exaggerated, to sell a product, i'm not saying don't buy an airfilter, by all means do, they do sound awesome, i'm just trying to warn you not to be dissapointed when the only gain you get is sound and not performance.

At the end of the day all i can do is offer an opinion and maybe give some advice just as other can on this web site and others like the FTOOC or J.cars ect it's up to you to decide then what you want to listen to and believe.

Daz...

[Sharkeyd]

Yeah I know any power increace is going to be minimal with an air filter.

Do you have an aftermarket exhaust on your FTO?

Im not a big fan of loud exhausts as the can give you a brutal head ache on long journeys!

[Daz]

Yeah I know any power increace is going to be minimal with an air filter.

Do you have an aftermarket exhaust on your FTO?

Im not a big fan of loud exhausts as the can give you a brutal head ache on long journeys!

I have a mongoose with cat bypass on one and standard with cat on the other, neither are that loud but the mongoose does sound very sweet when in mivec zone.

Daz...


You must be on a night shift like myself to be up this late

[Diddler]

Guys,

Whats the buzz with bypassing the cat system? I know that you'll have a straight through air flow hence more power, but does this not cause problems for the NCT?

[CJ]

but does this not cause problems for the NCT?

Yes, you have to swap the cat back in come NCT time, otherwise the car will fail on emmisions.

CJ