Heat resisting throttle body gaskets - benefits?

[kevinod]

I've bought a heat resisting tb gasket from NobbyV4 on ftooc, £10 so seemed well worth it.

I'm not sure I have the benefits straight in my head of having one on though - can anyone suggest what benefits I'd get from having one on exactly?

Kev.

[CJ]

I'm not sure I have the benefits straight in my head of having one on though

Then why did you buy it in the first place?

My understanding is that keeping the temp of the throttle body down means ambient airflow which in theory means higher performance.

CJ

[kevinod]

I'm not sure I have the benefits straight in my head of having one on though

Then why did you buy it in the first place?

My understanding is that keeping the temp of the throttle body down means ambient airflow which in theory means higher performance.

CJ

well I know there are benefits, but I wasn't 100% sure whether I had them exactly right! Thats pretty much along the lines I was thinking though... must try to take a better look at it during the week and see how long it would take me to get it on there.

[paullen]

Its a 20min job, you'll need to remove the bracket that supports the TB's weight and file it out to allow for the extra 3mm

With a TB an plenum gasket I think Vince recorded a drop of 10 degrees of the intake manifold, but you'll have to check with him for the exact figures.

[kevinod]

Its a 20min job, you'll need to remove the bracket that supports the TB's weight and file it out to allow for the extra 3mm

With a TB an plenum gasket I think Vince recorded a drop of 10 degrees of the intake manifold, but you'll have to check with him for the exact figures.

I'll need to file down a bracket to get it to fit?

The plenum gasket is the one for the manifold then? That's on the list too... when I replace the spark plugs I think I'll stick in a heat resistant inlet manifold gasket too, maybe one of the RPW ones...

So do you reckon I'll notice a difference with just the tb gasket on there?

[Myfeckin FTO]

So do you reckon I'll notice a difference with just the tb gasket on there?

No chance you'll notice the difference - Like the majority of FTO mods - very small gains per mod - its the sum of the parts that makes the difference.

[kevinod]

So do you reckon I'll notice a difference with just the tb gasket on there?

No chance you'll notice the difference - Like the majority of FTO mods - very small gains per mod - its the sum of the parts that makes the difference.

Was thinking it wouldn't be much on its own but got excited there for a sec...

I've ordered a mongoose downpipe from RiceRocket, from what I've read I'll notice a difference from that one alright.

[Myfeckin FTO]

I've ordered a mongoose downpipe from RiceRocket, from what I've read I'll notice a difference from that one alright.

Agreed - this is one area of the FTO that could really use an improvement.
Its unusual that you are putting it on a standard exhaust though.
Get a decat stainless steel exhaust on there as well and you'll really notice the difference.

[kevinod]

I've ordered a mongoose downpipe from RiceRocket, from what I've read I'll notice a difference from that one alright.

Agreed - this is one area of the FTO that could really use an improvement.
Its unusual that you are putting it on a standard exhaust though.
Get a decat stainless steel exhaust on there as well and you'll really notice the difference.

Ya, an exhaust another thing thats potentially on the list, well down the priority list, but I'd go for an exhaust that gives the performance without the extra noise, if thats possible... Mongoose exhausts from what I hear aren't too noisy?

Decat is a possibility maybe... but man, what about the trees???

[Myfeckin FTO]

Decat is a possibility maybe... but man, what about the trees???

Trees will benefit from better fuel consumption from getting rid of the ancient dirty cat thats already on your car. Nah seriously - the FTO engine is very efficent - I would not be surprised if it passed current NCT emissions without the cat. I always use V power fuel with an additional additive that ensures a cleaner burn. I may put this theory to the test for when I do the NCT. The cat is sitting in the shed at the moment - its an easy extra 5bhp to be had in my opinion.

[kevinod]

Worth trying out, actually I think I saw a decat advertised in buy&sell by someone in Cork not long ago...

The decats are different for GR and GPX though, right?

[Dave]

the GR and GS cat's are the same! GPX is a bit different!

[kevinod]

the GR and GS cat's are the same! GPX is a bit different!

Thats what I was thinking... thanks for confirming though!

[Myfeckin FTO]

Worth trying out, actually I think I saw a decat advertised in buy&sell by someone in Cork not long ago...

The decats are different for GR and GPX though, right?

The standard in DeCats varies very widely - I have seen some really sh1te ones for sale on ebay. Better just to go to Camskill http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m3b0s11p191 or buy when purchasing the stainless exhaust - you shouldn't really decat a standard exhaust - the baffles on the backbox will be gone in no time.

The camskill decat is the same bore for all models - its just the gasket sizes that will differ from model to model due to the difference in the rest of the exhausts bore.

[Dave]

i'd agree, i bought mine through Camskill, at least you know you're getting good quality!!

[kevinod]

the baffles on the backbox will be gone in no time.

I've heard that term a bit, what is a baffle exactly, and what does it do?

[CJ]

I've heard that term a bit, what is a baffle exactly, and what does it do?

In the case of the standard exhaust the baffles are made of mild steel, they regulate the flow of exhaust gas and act to tone down exhaust noise.

CJ

[Myfeckin FTO]

the baffles on the backbox will be gone in no time.

I've heard that term a bit, what is a baffle exactly, and what does it do?

As per CJ but to add it basically looks like a honeycomb section inside the exhaust backbox - when you decat your exhaust the flow increases fairly dramatically to the point where the baffles start to break up and clog your exhaust therby affecting gas flow and performance.

Even my own stainless exhaust baffles have started to vibrate when cold due to the high flow of gases thanks to no decat or reasonators on the exhaust.

[Dave]

my baffles are well and truely shagged!!

Off the point, did you ever get the exhausts done on your MyfFTO? Or are you holding out?

[paullen]

I'll need to file down a bracket to get it to fit?

The plenum gasket is the one for the manifold then? That's on the list too... when I replace the spark plugs I think I'll stick in a heat resistant inlet manifold gasket too, maybe one of the RPW ones...

So do you reckon I'll notice a difference with just the tb gasket on there?

The bracket is a doddle to file and I have about two spare plenum gaskets. If you want one PM me .

[Myfeckin FTO]

my baffles are well and truely shagged!!

Off the point, did you ever get the exhausts done on your MyfFTO? Or are you holding out?

Well - My present RSR is holding out well for the moment (apart from the slight vibration at cold) so theres no real panic - I had wanted it done for the last meet but the guy wasn't able to do it without me first visiting him in Mullingar for him to design and make up exhaust and then going back another day for fitting so its still on my to-do list. If I had a buyer for the RSR it would make a lot more sense to go with the planned twin exit. My mate is also talking about getting a similar set-up on his Pajero EVO so we might take a trip up there in the next couple of months. I need to be confident it will be done right - he really seems to know what hes talking about but I don't want to sacrifice performance for style.

[kevinod]

Even my own stainless exhaust baffles have started to vibrate when cold due to the high flow of gases thanks to no decat or reasonators on the exhaust.

If I had a buyer for the RSR

Not doing a good sales job here!

[kevinod]

I'll need to file down a bracket to get it to fit?

The bracket is a doddle to file and I have about two spare plenum gaskets. If you want one PM me .

In which way would I need to file it - widen a hole, or make the bracket thinner? If I look will it be reasonably obvious, or can you only see it when take off the bracket?

[Myfeckin FTO]

Even my own stainless exhaust baffles have started to vibrate when cold due to the high flow of gases thanks to no decat or reasonators on the exhaust.

If I had a buyer for the RSR

Not doing a good sales job here!

Just being honest! I only expect €120 for this stainless steel centre section and backbox - which in my opinion is a cracking buy for that money - theres plenty of mileage in it yet.
I have really only started to notice it recently - I brought it to my mate who deals with exhausts - he could open up the backbox and sort the baffles but he said it was so slight that it really wasn't worthwhile going to the trouble of fixing - it definetly is not affecting performance if my 0-60 of 6.48secs and 15.037 1/4 mile times from 2 weeks ago are anything to go by.

[kevinod]

Just being honest!

Only joking... definately nothing wrong with your performance/exhaust going on those times!!