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The beauty of a mainstream car

Postby soc » Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:50 pm

Just starting to realise some of the good points for having a more mainstream car - I've just taken delivery of a set of alloy TT pedals that are a direct replacement for the Golfs rubber ones - no drilling, screwing etc. required - pedals simply clip on in place of the rubber ones. And it only cost me €35 -

Still doesn't make up for lacking the V6 wail, pretty features and pin sharp handling
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Postby rsg » Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:05 pm

A friend of mine has a Golf 4 GTI, but I would never trade my fto for one. The golf is a great car, but I love my FTO. Are you gonna get the REVO software for your golf?

It's so nice to live in south africa, I could buy about 6 sets of decent pedals for €35!

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Postby soc » Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:10 pm

rsg wrote:A friend of mine has a Golf 4 GTI, but I would never trade my fto for one. The golf is a great car, but I love my FTO. Are you gonna get the REVO software for your golf?

It's so nice to live in south africa, I could buy about 6 sets of decent pedals for €35!

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Jaysus, I'm really starting to like SA...... I wonder if it's relative to wages though?

Yea, I'm considering getting the car Revo'd - apparently this can give 200-210bhp and 210-225ft/lbs torque - I say apparently cause I'll believe it when I see it. It's expensive over here (€800) so I want to get some other bits done first but I'm thinking sometime in the next 3 weeks.

Is your friends golf Revo'd?
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Postby rsg » Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:05 am

He hasn't got it revo'd yet, but he is considering it. I think it costs the equivalent of about €600 here, but apparently the Dastek Unichip can give gains of almost 30Kw (40bhp) on the wheel. This is a guess, but I have heard things along the lines of that. I think it mainly because the car is turbo'd that the results are so great.

My friend just got a bigger dump valve and he gets his car back today, so I can't wait to see it.

Tell me something, was your FTO faster than the golf? What model of fto did you have?

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Postby soc » Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:27 am

rsg wrote:My friend just got a bigger dump valve and he gets his car back today, so I can't wait to see it.


Not sure a bigger DV makes much difference to be honest - most of the UK guys change DV because if you get the car chipped the standard DV will wear out pretty fast as its a diaphram type where as modified ones area piston type. Probably get a Forge DV0007 (or even a TT DV) myself before getting Revo'd.

Tell me something, was your FTO faster than the golf? What model of fto did you have?


The answer to that question is I don't really know. It is so different to drive I wouldn't know without doing some proper timing. Certainly the golf feels a faster to about 50 but it misses that surge the FTO had as the rev's rise. I supsect the golf might be quicker to 40 (ish) and the FTO would start to catch up from there on....

I'd say there's nothing in it really...... unless you get into the twisties - then the FTO will burn the golf.

<start nostalgia> I do remeber the day I decided to get an FTO though - I raced one in my old 205 GTI (god I miss that car :cry:) down Pearse Street from a standing start at traffic lights. I took him to about 50 but by 60 he was level and moving ahead - I was really, really suprised - sounded amazing too :twisted: <end nostalgia>
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Postby rsg » Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:11 am

He got the dump valve done just for the sound it makes when releasing pressure, and it does make a small difference. It cost him about 120 pounds.

I raced him a while back, but his clutch was screwed and I kicked him. After he got it done though, I can't catch him from the word go. Still have to take my car some where else to have it checked out, on monday night I raced a 230 Kompressor Merc and a Honda Vtec, and they both killed me. The merc is understandable, but the vtec? I dunno what's up with my car.

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Postby CJ » Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:39 am

rsg wrote:I raced a 230 Kompressor Merc and a Honda Vtec, and they both killed me. The merc is understandable, but the vtec? I dunno what's up with my car.


The SLK 230 puts out 192bhp and 0-60 in 7.2 seconds, a manual should should beat it to the line. It will be close with an ITR, dues to the gearing on the latter it will probably have the edge up to 60.

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Postby soc » Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:48 am

rsg wrote:He got the dump valve done just for the sound it makes when releasing pressure, and it does make a small difference. It cost him about 120 pounds.


I'm not a big fan of Dump Valves (or Blow off valves) - too showy for me and they are not supposed to be great on the Mkiv GTI because they let the boost pressure drop too much (well that's what I've been told anyway). Most people on www.uk-mkivs.net recommend the recirculating type dum valves (usually called diverter valves). I'll be getting a Diverter Vavle (recirculating) so there won't be much noise.
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Postby rsg » Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:55 am

It wasn't the slk, it was a c230 kompressor. I thought they were faster anyway. But the hinda vtec is a 1600, even though he has a vtec I should be able to destroy one, but I've already mention some of my problems in my one other posts about my car and it's power.

My friend with the golf is also putting up the boost pressure on his car eventually and getting a bigger intercooler, though I told him not to boost it higher as I don't think it's a good idea, he's got 200000km on the clock now. It's up to him though, I'll laugh when he has to get a new turbo or a new engine!

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Postby CJ » Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:59 am

rsg wrote:It wasn't the slk, it was a c230 kompressor. I thought they were faster anyway


Actually, thats what I meant, the stats I quoted for for the C230 K.

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Postby rsg » Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:08 pm

Correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't the kompressor models supercharged? Else what is that supposed to be? I've got a GR Tip.

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Postby CJ » Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:11 pm

rsg wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't the kompressor models supercharged


Correct, but they're still only putting out 192bhp.

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Postby rsg » Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:13 pm

I actually want to know once and for all, how much of a difference there is between sea and humidity level when I'm almost 2km about sea level, and it's less humid here, about 20% humidity. Could anyone tell me if they know?

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Postby rsg » Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:14 pm

Must be a tiny supercharger in that case!
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Postby soc » Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:57 pm

rsg wrote:Must be a tiny supercharger in that case!


more like the engine is not that highly tuned - it is a cruiser afterall. Don't forget the likes of the FTO and vtec Hondas are very highly tuned engines so have excellent power for their engine size....
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Postby Dave » Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:14 pm

but a GR should be whipping a 1.6 v-tech off the road!
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Postby rsg » Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:22 pm

Exactly my point! I dunno whats up with my car!
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Postby rsg » Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:31 pm

Just went for a spin in the golf. The valve sounds great, like if you can imagine the turbo sound in need for speed underground, if anuone's played it.
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Postby soc » Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:52 pm

Dave wrote:but a GR should be whipping a 1.6 v-tech off the road!


I dunno if there would be that much in it until you hit the higher speeds - remember the GR is a Tip and the Vtec is a manual - and don't those Vtecs put out something like 160bhp?
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Postby Dave » Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:54 pm

not sure on the bhp of the smaller v-techs, but i supose they would be reasonably quick!
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Postby soc » Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:02 pm

rsg wrote:Just went for a spin in the golf. The valve sounds great, like if you can imagine the turbo sound in need for speed underground, if anuone's played it.


Aye, I do think the sound is cool but not as an everyday thing. But that's probably because most people over here that run them are what I call "BarryBoys".

What's a BarryBoy??? Well, they usually drive cars like Honda Civics, Nissan Micra's and Toyota Glanza's. It''s the Glanza's (as a 1.3T) that usually have the blow off valves fitted. And while the Glanza in itself ain't a bad car the guys running them are usually aged between 18-22, wear shiney tracksuits with soverign rings and baseball caps, say things like "I'll burn yer house down", like to fight for no reason, generally drive like complete twats and very rarely declare the car as having a turbo - "but mister, the log book says it's only a 1.3").

Can you tell I don't like these guys :-)
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Postby Dave » Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:04 pm

you can get dump valves that you can turn this off or on, or up and down sound wise!
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Postby soc » Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:11 pm

Dave wrote:you can get dump valves that you can turn this off or on, or up and down sound wise!



I'm gonna go the tried and tested route - Forge DV007 closed loop diverter valve (recirculating).
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