The Irish Mitsubishi FTO Owners Club

by **Black Magic** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:46 pm

Hi all,

Always wanted a FTO, finally bought one yesterday woo hoo!!

I bought it up the North & Im looking to find a way to lower the emissions (for VRT).

Anyone have any idea's? :idea:

Thanks!

by **Dragonheart** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:54 pm

Best way is to use a good quality petrol, some redex if needed, and drve it seriously hard to the centre, keeps the oil hot and a much better chance of passing the emissions then. Unless your miles over the pass mark then it could be a lambda or CO2 sensor.

by **Black Magic** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:01 pm

Thanks for that info.

It just passed the MOT last month, emissions should be ok?

Have you ever used dipotene? Reckon an oil change would make any difference?

This club is fantastic by the way..... Well done all!

Facebook · by **Sebastian** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:57 pm

Welcome and congrats on the purchase .
did you get it cheap or why the trouuble to shop north ?

there are a good few for sale here as well

any chance of some pics / description (e.g model , mods ..)?

by **Black Magic** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:14 pm

Was shopping around for the last nearly 4 months, have travelled all around Ireland and I came across 6 FTOs with the heads leaking & white mayonaise in the oil cap - amazing to find so many with the same problem!

Also found one with the big end going & one with a lot of rust, theres a lot of chancers out there!!!

Was so happy to find this one, in absolute mint condition, well worth the wait!

94000 K, 1995 GR manual, black, spotless, completely orignal apart from wheels.

What spec is yours?

Frist day to join this site, any tips?

Facebook · by **Sebastian** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:40 pm

join the club meets . that's the best tip

)

there is a lot of info on the site
''search'' is your friend

i have a gr manual myself

by **TopCat** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:46 pm

Welcome along, and hope you enjoy the site.
Nice car you got there by the sounds of things.
First comment is regarding the emissions for the VRT. AFAIK, it goes on the manufacturers figures for the car, and if these aren't available, you're automatically in the highest band. Each car isn't tested individually, so you're caught paying the highest band. This is my understanding of it anyway, but I'm open to correction.
I'd say come along to one of the meets if you can, there's one the end if the next month, and you'd get to know the crew.
There is LOTS of knowlegde here. If you have questions you have a look for related topics using the search feature, but if that fails, don't be afraid to ask, all the guys (and galls) around here are very nice.
Put up a few pics if you can, and congrats on the purchase.

by **Black Magic** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:53 pm

I just seen that there, wexford is the next meet cool, I have never been to a meet before, should be interesting

Yeah I was looking on the revenue website last night, & it mentioned that you need to put the car through a C02 test & show documentation of it, plus it requests the orginal CO2 emissions of the car when it was first made... I JUST WANT TO DRIVE IT!!!!!!!!

Only one or two pix at the moment, will take some more & post them up soon....

Are there many girls in this club?

by **Dragonheart** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:31 pm

Sorry, read your first post wrong, thought it said emissions for NCT.
The VRT is a flat rate as far as I know, you're automatically in the higher tax bracket if buying a new car. But bringing in an FTO you should be paying 33% of the value of the car in ireland (thats my understanding of it), www.ros.ie has a calculator.

by **steelroe** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:44 pm

There is nothing you can do in relation to emissions that wil reduce the VRT. As Dragonheart said it is calculated on the supposed "OPEN MARKET VALUE". Newer vehicles havea stated emissioons level that is taken into account for VRT.

by **colm_mcm** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:56 pm

Yup, FTO falls into maximum VRT category, regardless of whether it's 1.8 or 2.0. Annual road tax is still cc based.

by **Black Magic** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:25 pm

Ok this is what revenue.ie states...

"All passenger (category A) vehicles must have approved documentation confirming the level of CO2 emissions of the vehicle being registered. The VRT will be calculated by the official at the VRO, following inspection of the vehicle. In the case of a used vehicle you must also present the foreign registration document and a document, as approved by the Revenue Commissioners confirming the levels of CO2 emissions of the vehicle at the time of manufacture"

Very

!!

Got a quote for 640 from ros.ie- which is not too bad,

When I do pay the VRT, will update this so everyone know exactly what the story is with this....

Thanks for all the advice, much appreciated!!

by **colm_mcm** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:49 pm

no emissions figure or certificate of conformity is available for the FTO, so the VRT automatically jumps to the top rate.

Facebook · by **Sebastian** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:16 pm

Black Magic wrote:Are there many girls in this club?

there are a good few .. not all of them very active tho
take it that you're a lass?

by **Black Magic** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:21 pm

[/quote]there are a good few .. not all of them very active tho
take it that you're a lass?

Or a pervy old man by that question!

Haha yeah Im a girl

by **Black Magic** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:22 pm

Hmm sorry that message came out backwards... still getting used to this!

by **elaine** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:51 pm

Welcome along there are a few of us on the site hopefully we will meet you in wexford

by **Black Magic** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:39 pm

Thanks!

Im looking forward to it, better have my VRT sorted by then or Ill go nuts!

by **TopCat** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:55 pm

VRT should only take about 10mins to sort, just go into your local motor tax office. Technically you should do it within 24 hours of buying the car, but don't worry, we won't tell anyone. :wink:

by **Black Magic** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:26 pm

Ah yeah, but its getting the money, although its only 640, times are tough!!

Its so beautiful though... its killing me... I feel like Im cheating on it by not driving it!

by **Dragonheart** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:13 am

E640 not bad at all though, I paid E2400 for VRT when I brought mine in 2 years ago.

by **Black Magic** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:36 pm

Thats crazy! What year is it?

by **Dragonheart** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:26 pm

Its a '97, the VRT on it the week before I bought it was €1308, then after I had paid for the car etc. and she was on the way over it went up by a grand, must have revised their database or something. Whatever happened it cost me a grand extra.

by **Bernard** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:30 pm

Mine was €2800, although they were charging more until I pointed out that 2002 was the year it was imported into the UK, not the year of manufacture :roll:

Facebook · by **Sebastian** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:36 pm

Bernard wrote:Mine was €2800, although they were charging more until I pointed out that 2002 was the year it was imported into the UK, not the year of manufacture

big mistake ..

imagine a 02 reg on the roads

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