What can waste your FTO

[Kace]

Just so we know what not to tackle at the lights - what are the marques and models that need to be left alone for fear of

I'll start with :

Do not even think about it :
Audi TT 225bhp
Nissan 350Z
BMW M3
BMW 330i
Mazda RX7
Merc SL500

Go on - give it a go if he's really annoying you !! :
BMW 318 / 320 / 325 / 330d
BMW 520i/d, 525i/d, 530 i/d

[Myfeckin FTO]

Scratch that 225bhp TT off the list for a start - its very even with a mivec manual - in fact I bet the Mivec FTO will do the 1/4 mile quicker. The TT has a worse BHP/per ton and the additional transmission loss of 4WD.

Also while an SL500 and BMW330 may beat you at a traffic light grand prix when the going gets twisty it'll be a lot closer. I'd rather my old Manual GPX going around Mondello than any of the above.

For Jap Cars to avoid it'll be :

Turbo Nutter Evo's and STI's.
Honda S2000 and Honda NSX.
Nissan 350Z and Skyline GTR's.
Toyota GT4/ MR2 Turbos and TT Supras.

Give it a go:

Mazda RX8 (in both bhp variants)
Lexus IS200
Toyota Celica (except GT4)
All Jap Hot hatches (Corolla GTI, Civic Type R etc) except the 4WD turbos like the Pulsar etc
Mazda MX5

[colm_mcm]

I'd say a DC5 Integra would be do-able?

[Myfeckin FTO]

I'd say a DC5 Integra would be do-able?

It'll be tight - I've had a few battles with both the DC2 and DC5 Tegs on the 1/4 mile over the past few years and its been very close. They seem to be able to get into the 14's quite easily - though I've never seen a stock Teg do a 1/4 mile. I've seen NA Tegs do the 1/4 mile in anything from early 14's into the 15's so I guess a lot will depend on the health (& mods & weight) of the relevant FTO or Teg.

We all know what cars better looking though!

[Sebastian]

might be.
dc5's tend to be slower than dc2's type R's.

what about silvia s14's 2L . 220(?) bhp?
i'd say the mivec would beat the sr20det

[Dragonheart]

Audi TT wouldnt be too hard for a manual to beat I reckon.
The teggie has exact same bhp has a gpx, 197 as standard, close battle.
What about Glanzas, if they have the high boost turned on? I find they can be seriously quick off lights and roundabouts.
I'd chance a rex-8.
The R32 Golf is a bit of a demon in disguise too.

[d_dan]

I had a lil fun with a TT at the tollbridge before pretty close think he had me for hte first 150-200m and then i was well ahead by the time the roads had merged and we were back on motorways.


The DC5's are a heavy ass car for the bhp they have.
and civics and tegs id say a manual gpx would have all, well maybe a civic with a k20 drop in wouls be good to judge

[Dave]

Levin's are handy enough

Starlet Turbo's, does depend on mods but a GPX should normally take it

Golf GTI's are another fun one

Prelude 2.2 Vtec's - Tight enough

[d_dan]

id love to go against on up in the court that and id like to see a euro R

[ftorex]

Definately not an RX7, but then im biased.....

[kevinod]

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[MR. FTO GR]

good thread idea !

Be good to have a list for GR's too

[Bernard]

Be good to have a list for GR's too

Do we have the bandwidth?

[Kace]

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Who said anything about racing ?

I thought we were just talking about who could pull away from the lights the quickest, before reaching the legal speed limit

You can't exactly do a 'Fast and Furious' drag on any streets I know of Dublin, when you factor in the near 24 hour gridlock

[CJ]

Definately not an RX7, but then im biased.....

So am I and I can concur!

Add Galant VR-4 to the 'don't even try' list (more bias...)

CJ

[Masa]

and for the GS ?

an Opel Corsa ?

[Kace]

All Supra variants I presume ?

[Dragonheart]

TT Supra for sure would shame the fto, but I wonder about the n/a, would the fto have a chance against that? It a heavy car, even though it does have a 3L engine its still a lot of weight attached to it.

[Myfeckin FTO]

All Supra variants I presume ?

TT Supra only - too much weight and not enough power in the 3 litre NA.

[Wildhound]

You guys might find this interesting.

It's just something a friend and I cobbled together while bored at work one afternoon. We tried to verify everything from as many reliable web sources as possible, but I certainly don't guarantee accuracy.

[kevinod]

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Who said anything about racing ?

I thought we were just talking about who could pull away from the lights the quickest, before reaching the legal speed limit

You can't exactly do a 'Fast and Furious' drag on any streets I know of Dublin, when you factor in the near 24 hour gridlock

Maybe your definition is different but to me 'who could do whatever the quickest' implies a race, which implies racing. You don't necessarily need to lap a circuit or go any significant distance.

Anyway, just want to be clear that any form of racing on public roads is not encouraged by Fto-ireland, in case anyone asks!

[GarLaf]

I wouldnt chance an RX-8. My jap auto 210 is quicker than my GX auto. It beats the 8 off the line but the rotary just keeps accelerating and cathes it after a couple of yards.

[Myfeckin FTO]

I wouldnt chance an RX-8. My jap auto 210 is quicker than my GX auto. It beats the 8 off the line but the rotary just keeps accelerating and cathes it after a couple of yards.

A Manual Mivec would be a rather different beast though!
I've had both the non mivec Tip and mivec manual FTO's and theres really no comparison in terms of outright acceleration.

[Muad_dib77]

and for the GS ?

an Opel Corsa ?

Depends on the Corsa

[soc]

I thought we were just talking about who could pull away from the lights the quickest, before reaching the legal speed limit

In this case the TT would pull a decent gap on the FTO - I know from experience

Remember, acceleration isn't about the bhp (especially 0 - 62) - it's about the torque and how it's delivered.

And in the wet it would be no contest

And mapped (I know, I know, but a lot of TT's out there will be mapped - it's the new done thing ) the TT wastes a lot of big machinery up to 70 (until the bhp starts to tell).