Is my FTO MIVEC??

[briencrean]

i take ir ur DJ murrays friend!!! he was asking me about this last week! One sure fire way is get out the video camera and get someone to record u drivin in "mivec revs" and post it here!!!

That's me! Thanks for the clips. After listening to those 2 clips Im unsure which mine is to be honest. I'm gonna get a video recorder out and record it asap.

My model number on the chassis number plate is E-DE3A HNHM.

The bit that says HNHM means:
H = 2 door coupe
N = 5 speed Manual
H = GR
M = 6A12 DOHC V6 with Electronic fuel injection.

So Originally it was definatley a GR non MIVEC. So unless someone changed the engine which I suspect may have happened its non-MIVEC but I'll record it in the revs to be sure and post it.

[Wildhound]

It would be much simpler to just check which side the oil cap is on!

[briencrean]

It would be much simpler to just check which side the oil cap is on!

The oil cap is on the right if you look at the bottom of the pic below. Is it definatley non-MIVEC if the oil cap is on the right??

[Myfeckin FTO]

Sounds like a GR - get yo ass to the 1/4 mile in Limerick in September and then we'll know for sure!

[Wildhound]

Tis definitely the GR rocker cover. Don't think that would sit on top of the Mivec head but someone can feel free to correct me.

[briencrean]

Tried recording the sound of the engine today using a mobile phone in the car while driving - Didn't work out very well! Couldn't pick up much except feedback!

Trying to think of a handy way of recording it without a rolling road!

Probably is a GR engine but I'll get a clip up anyways so ye can hear the engine

[Dragonheart]

Maybe open the hood and hold the phone next to the engine while manually opening the throttle in the engine. Should get the sounds should it??

[CJ]

I'd be very surprised if you've a set of high lift cams under that GR rocker cover. The fact you have an aftermarket filter would amplify the cam changeover point - if you had MIVEC, it weould be pretty obvious around 5.5k rpm...

CJ

[briencrean]

I'd be very surprised if you've a set of high lift cams under that GR rocker cover. The fact you have an aftermarket filter would amplify the cam changeover point - if you had MIVEC, it weould be pretty obvious around 5.5k rpm...

From the two clips that were posted I notice that my own FTO definitely hits a major change around 5K and sounds like miss enzo's but the GR posted by Wildhound just seems to rev upwards with no major changeover point.

The only thing that I think could possibly be putting me off is my Air filter - Maybe its making my engine sound like a MIVEC?

If I could get hold of a standard FTO air filter for a drive I might be able to tell.

Im still trying to think of a good safe way of recording the car going up through the revs and trying to avoid something stupid, like putting the front of the car on axel stands and revving up through the gears!!

[stufoz]

when i first got my fto mivec and took her out for a bit of a squirt i noticed that noise an thought a front wheel bearing was about to explode!!! quickly slowed down and eased off... it wasnt till a few weeks later that i saw th same youtube clip you fellas have posted that i realised mine wasnt f***ed!!!

[mcgon1979]

remove the one of the rocker covers and look at the cams. If its mivec it will have six lobes, 3 low speed and 3 high speed.

[briencrean]

remove the one of the rocker covers and look at the cams. If its mivec it will have six lobes, 3 low speed and 3 high speed.

Here is a pic of underneath my Rocker cover. I'm not sure what to look for?

[Mustang]

No offence intended, but he answer to the original question has already been given many times over, with numerous ways to determine the engine type, all of which are pointing to the same conclusion i.e. non mivec, I can't help but think that this thread has been given way too much air time and should have been concluded 10 posts ago. Is this a joke?

Is the oil cap on the left or the right side as you look into the engine bay? Left side is Mivec. Right side is a GR engine.

[Kace]

No offence intended, but he answer to the original question has already been given many times over, with numerous ways to determine the engine type, all of which are pointing to the same conclusion i.e. non mivec, I can't help but think that this thread has been given way too much air time and should have been concluded 10 posts ago. Is this a joke?

Is the oil cap on the left or the right side as you look into the engine bay? Left side is Mivec. Right side is a GR engine.

Agreed - this is a no-brainer.

[briencrean]

Is this a joke?

A joke? I'm just trying to learn a little about my engine bud. The position of the oil cap can hardly determine an engine type when it is the camshaft that makes the difference between the engines, can it? Feel free to correct me!

mcgon1979 gave me a good suggestion about the cams so I thought it would be worthwhile to find out what I was looking at in the pic I posted. Like I said I'm just trying to learn

[mcgon1979]

the rocker cover is not removed in your picture... Only the cover. There are 6 or so bolts around the outside. If you want you can whip over the cover and see if the cams look like this...note the 6 lobes per calm.

I wouldn't bother though. As the guys say it's not a mivec engine.

[Kace]

Going to add a couple more things that confirm why your engine is GR all over....

- You have an ITG Filter with the airflow meter attached (GR only - GPX Mivec has no meter)
- The sound from a Mivec with an ITG filter is absolutely unmistakable after 5500RPM. Wait until you get a ride in a Mivec with an ITG - you'll see what I mean.

[Wildhound]

If you want MIVEC that badly though I can sell you an engine that's lying up in my garden. Needs some work but it was just about running when I took it out and I'm willing to let it go for a good price.

[johntony]

what needs doing and do you have the ecu and how much

[Wildhound]

what needs doing and do you have the ecu and how much

You have a PM.

[5803emma]

hi guys, my engine doesn't say anything on it at all about being mivec, it doesn't even say mitsubishi which worries me slightly!!! but the oil cap is on the left and it roars at 5,500rpm. My chassis number starts with DE3A, is that relevant?

[Mustang]

hi guys, my engine doesn't say anything on it at all about being mivec, it doesn't even say mitsubishi which worries me slightly!!! but the oil cap is on the left and it roars at 5,500rpm. My chassis number starts with DE3A, is that relevant?

Sounds like you bought one of those lada riva 1500's with the FTO bodykit fitted, have you kept the receipt?

[Wildhound]

hi guys, my engine doesn't say anything on it at all about being mivec, it doesn't even say mitsubishi which worries me slightly!!! but the oil cap is on the left and it roars at 5,500rpm. My chassis number starts with DE3A, is that relevant?

Sounds like you bought one of those lada riva 1500's with the FTO bodykit fitted, have you kept the receipt?

Ouch, must be a UK import.

[colm_mcm]

just sounds like you're missing an engine trim cover.

[Bernard]

One way to be sure, only the mivec engined FTOs came with a G-force meter.
Is there one fitted?