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Postby zacob » Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:45 pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 4542121686

Bought one of these exhausts from ebay, however since I fitted it I find it seems to have decreased the BHP,power. Does this make sense, maybe it's my imagination!! Also a bit noisy for my liking.
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:36 pm

Did you decat as well?
What induction are you using?

I don't know anything about this particular make of exhaust - Its not a well known make - the steel quality is ok but its unusual to have 2 back boxes on the rear section.

Do you know what the bore of the exhaust you bought is?
And if you don't mind me asking - what did you pay?
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Postby zacob » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:51 pm

It cost 505 euro including postage. The feedback from other people that bought it are very good. Need to check bore size. 5" pipe at back.
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Postby zacob » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:53 pm

P.S

Have Induction kit. Didn't use decat, probably need to buy one to see any noticable difference.
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Postby CJ » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:42 pm

zacob wrote:Have Induction kit. Didn't use decat, probably need to buy one to see any noticable difference.


You'll get a bit of extra pull in the mid/high range and it will enhance the exhaust note. As regards the exhaust you've bought, its obviously a custom job, I would tend to favour the proven brands like Mongoose, Apexi and HKS, the Mongoose is available from Camskill for in and around the same money.

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Postby zacob » Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:05 am

The one thing that I don't like is the Exhaust sounds "dare I say it" a little boy racery for my liking. Think I should have stuck to the twin oval replacement type.
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Postby soc » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:17 am

zacob wrote:The one thing that I don't like is the Exhaust sounds "dare I say it" a little boy racery for my liking. Think I should have stuck to the twin oval replacement type.


It'll only get louder if you add a decat - might worth sticking it on ebay to see if you can get your money back on it. Set your reserve at what you paid for it so that way if you don't get any decent offers you don't have to sell. Then go get a mongoose from Camskill - I've heard CJ's and another guys (both with decat) and they sound very, very sweet - in fact as far as exhausts go they sound expensive :) (not at all boy racer like).

I have some sound clips of some FTO's with mongoose at full pelt, I can mail them to you if you want.
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Postby CJ » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:54 am

shane wrote:I have some sound clips of some FTO's with mongoose at full pelt, I can mail them to you if you want.


Can you send me on to me Shane? I'll verify them ;)

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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:02 am

zacob wrote:It cost 505 euro including postage. The feedback from other people that bought it are very good. Need to check bore size. 5" pipe at back.


This is too close to the more established brands to make it worth buying - Camskill would have sold you a Mongoose for €517 - http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m3b0s11p466
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Postby soc » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:30 am

CJ wrote:
shane wrote:I have some sound clips of some FTO's with mongoose at full pelt, I can mail them to you if you want.


Can you send me on to me Shane? I'll verify them ;)

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Postby adrian » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:34 am

shane wrote:I have some sound clips of some FTO's with mongoose at full pelt, I can mail them to you if you want.


Shane, you gotta get yourself another FTO... you are waayyyy too keen :wink:
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Postby Mustang » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:48 am

Zacob wrote
Bought one of these exhausts from ebay, however since I fitted it I find it seems to have decreased the BHP,power. Does this make sense, maybe it's my imagination!!

I take it you bought one suitable for a GR? the one you have highlighted refers to a GPX and says it suitable for Mivec engine cars only. (I believe the bore is different on mivec and non-mivec 2L's).
I would imagine that a back box only system such as this would likely effect the sound level only (and possibly adversely effect the performance, if not suitably designed with the correct bore, to maintain the back pressure).


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I don't like is the Exhaust sounds "dare I say it" a little boy racery for my liking.

Eh! :? Buying a 4" exhaust back box. What did you expect?
These things aint subtle.
Each to their own though. I have to say that their return policy seems like a bit of a farce.


This item is covered by my 100% satisfaction guarantee. If you are not completely satisfied with the item for any reason at all, then you simply return it to me within 14 days in the original condition, and I give a full refund of the purchase price. Simple as that!



How you could ever return it in original condition after tightening bolts and running exhaust gases through it is beyond me.
This would only seem to apply if you opened the packaging took one look at it and sent it back straight away!
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Postby CJ » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:53 am

Heres the video Shane was talking about (AFAIK, its Dave Wilsons FTO).
Its a 2Mb zipped mpeg.

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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:02 pm

Mustang wrote:......take it you bought one suitable for a GR? the one you have highlighted refers to a GPX and says it suitable for Mivec engine cars only. (I believe the bore is different on mivec and non-mivec 2L's).
I would imagine that a back box only system such as this would likely effect the sound level only (and possibly adversely effect the performance, if not suitably designed with the correct bore, to maintain the back pressure)....


Forgot you had a GR zacob - it may be that the bore is too large and is affecting performance.

Mustang - Its not a backbox only system - there seems to be a centre section there as well - no reasonators or baffles to be seen so I would expect its very loud alright.
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Postby soc » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:52 pm

adrian wrote:
shane wrote:I have some sound clips of some FTO's with mongoose at full pelt, I can mail them to you if you want.


Shane, you gotta get yourself another FTO... you are waayyyy too keen :wink:


I've a whole pile of FTO related mpgs, avi's, etc.... every now and then I fire them up and have a watch/listen to remind myself how cool these cars are - that's a bit sad isn't it.....


O/T - I was listening to some wav clips of different exhausts on the golf (posted on www.uk-mkivs.net) - they all sounds sh1t - I'm not even thinking of fitting an exhaust to the golf, was listening out of curiosity but I came to the conclusion that 4-pots with exhausts just sound sound sh1t after the FTO....
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Postby zacob » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:05 pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :EOTB:UK:6

This is the actual exhaust purchased cat back(gr) version & Very easy to fit. Does it look like the proper bore size?? Does anyone know where in Cork I can check thE BHP. Still seems to have plenty of torque.

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Sorry about the limited responses. Just don't know that much about the mechanics of cars. Learning all the time though.
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:25 pm

zacob wrote:This is the actual exhaust purchased cat back(gr) version & Very easy to fit. Does it look like the proper bore size?? Does anyone know where in Cork I can check thE BHP. ....


Impossible to tell the bore without actually measuring it - standard GR bore is 50mm - GPX bore a rather more substantial 67mm - but a small increase in bore wouldn't do the GR any harm - anywhere between 50mm and 65mm should be fine. Backpressure is a very difficult area to make assumptions on without recourse to a rolling road and a number of tests on exhausts but I'm surprised to hear you feel you are loosing power with the new exhaust unless the bore is 65mm + and I'd be surprised if it was.

Don't know of a rolling road in Cork - but why don't you suggest a meet in Westward Eng (Westmeath) within the next couple of months.
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