Clutch!

[kevinod]

Hi all,

my clutch packed up this morning, sat in to the car, started her and despite my foot being on the clutch it jumped forward like it was in gear. Thought maybe I was half asleep and didn't have the clutch pedal down fully, so took it out of gear and started the car up, no probs, until I then tried to go into first, and it just wasn't having it. It physically would not go into any gear.

So, fun and games to be had replacing the clutch! I already have a pressure plate (ebay bargain! ) but I'll need to get hold of a clutch release bearing too and any other bits and pieces that are worth doing at the same time.

Anyone any experience of having the clutch replaced (iirc Maud you had yours replaced 6 months or so back?)?

Kev.

[CJ]

Kev, did you try and engage 2nd or 3rd gear rather than first? Somtimes you can drive a manual in 3rd when the clutch is slipping badly.

CJ

[Muad_dib77]

Aye yeah - I got myself a lovely exedy clutch (stage2 performance blahdiblah! ).. Had the work done by a garage down in Blanch who totally ripped me off...did fir the clutch though and I'm still loving it - way better than the standard one.

I think I spent 120gbp on the clutch - which iafterwards found out was quite good.

[ikeane]

Aye yeah - I got myself a lovely exedy clutch (stage2 performance blahdiblah! ).. Had the work done by a garage down in Blanch who totally ripped me off...did fir the clutch though and I'm still loving it - way better than the standard one.

I think I spent 120gbp on the clutch - which iafterwards found out was quite good.

What kind of improvements do you get with the performance clutch?

[kevinod]

Kev, did you try and engage 2nd or 3rd gear rather than first? Somtimes you can drive a manual in 3rd when the clutch is slipping badly.

CJ

Yup, tried all the gears but the gearstick would not physically go into any of the gears.

The thing is there was no slipping, no real warning of any problem, until this morning.

[CJ]

Yup, tried all the gears but the gearstick would not physically go into any of the gears.

The thing is there was no slipping, no real warning of any problem, until this morning.

Hmm, you sure its not messed up synchromesh in the box?

CJ

[kevinod]

Aye yeah - I got myself a lovely exedy clutch (stage2 performance blahdiblah! ).. Had the work done by a garage down in Blanch who totally ripped me off...did fir the clutch though and I'm still loving it - way better than the standard one.

I think I spent 120gbp on the clutch - which iafterwards found out was quite good.

Sounds good alright, standard clutch is £120 so thats not bad at all by the sounds of it. I'd have to wait for an upgraded clutch, so I'm just going to try to get hold of a standard one for now, if I'm really lucky I'll get it tomorrow, if not it'll be tuesday, and it'd still have to be fitted after that.

[kevinod]

Yup, tried all the gears but the gearstick would not physically go into any of the gears.

The thing is there was no slipping, no real warning of any problem, until this morning.

Hmm, you sure its not messed up synchromesh in the box?

CJ

Tbh I'm just going on what my brother/dad are saying, and they reckon its probably cracked springs on the pressure plate, but I was thinking would that actually stop me from physically getting it into gear (thought there'd at least be musical noises coming from the gearbox).

[Muad_dib77]

well - one massive improvent was the abiltity to make the car move.. cause the old one was broken.

The car just seems to have an easier time transferring power to the wheels. It means that I can do a whole load of wheelspin should i choose to. (I don't cause tires are depressingly expensive).

Clutch does feel a bit heavier than I remember the standard one being - but nothing terrible (nothing compared to that of a pug306 or a tractor).

I was told that a performance clucth would make it difficult not to stall the car in everyday driving - I've had no such issues. Happy out.

[johnny]

kev, if ur clutch pedal has no resistance in it then its likely one of the clutch cylinders has packed in. There is a master to the right of the brake cylinder and a slave down at the front, mounted to the engine. If this is the case u hav an easy fix. clutch isint slippin, since u said it jumped forward and u cudnt get it into gear, theres my 2 cents for wat its worth

[steelroe]

Have you checked the linkage on top of the gearbox

[kevinod]

Actually, just spoke to them again, they reckon its the pressure plate has collapsed. And its actually a clutch plate I have not a pressure plate.

[kevinod]

kev, if ur clutch pedal has no resistance in it then its likely one of the clutch cylinders has packed in. There is a master to the right of the brake cylinder and a slave down at the front, mounted to the engine. If this is the case u hav an easy fix. clutch isint slippin, since u said it jumped forward and u cudnt get it into gear, theres my 2 cents for wat its worth

Thanks for the input, the pedal feels the same as it always has so I hopefully the cylinders are ok. *knock on wood*

[kevinod]

Have you checked the linkage on top of the gearbox

At that stage I was almost late for work so I didn't hang around, borrowed the mammys car and headed off. Worth looking at though, I'll check it when I get home, thanks!

[Muad_dib77]

Check this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MITSUBISHI-FTO-2 ... dZViewItem

Contact the seller - he has his own website. This particular clutch isn't listed as FTO on his site, but I'm fairly sure it's the same one that goes with the Lancer.

[kevinod]

Had another look last night... without the engine running, I can select any gear, so linkages & syncromesh seem ok. I had someone pump the clutch pedal, and I can see the slave cylinder pushing the clutch release over and back, so that seems fine too.

Managed to order a clutch kit locally, €220. Normally I wouldn't deal with this particular motor factors 'cos they've given us loads of wrong parts in the past, actually had to physically bring in old brake pads to them before to get the right ones, but they said they could have it this morning so bit the bullet and went for it.

I'll try to start stripping it down tonight and see how it looks.

[kevinod]

Check this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MITSUBISHI-FTO-2 ... dZViewItem

Contact the seller - he has his own website. This particular clutch isn't listed as FTO on his site, but I'm fairly sure it's the same one that goes with the Lancer.

Looks good, thanks for the link. If only I had got some warning, like the clutch slipping or something, then I'd have time to wait for delivery. Ah well, standard clutch is fine too.

[CJ]

Managed to order a clutch kit locally, €220

It it Mitsi OEM? If so do you have p/n by aby chance?

CJ

[kevinod]

Managed to order a clutch kit locally, €220

It it Mitsi OEM? If so do you have p/n by aby chance?

Not Mitsi OEM, but its supposed to be made by a good jap manufacturer I'm told.

Figures for OEMs were something like (not including vat) 199 for the pressure plate, 150 for the clutch plate and 40 for the release bearing I think it was. Basically almost twice the price + VAT.

[kevinod]

Discovered this evening I can select all gears, and clutch is working fine, no probs! Dunno wot happened between yesterday and today, car's just been sitting in the same spot!

There was definately something messed up yesterday though, still need to work out what was wrong before it happens again.

[Muad_dib77]

That's just messed up!

Could've been some much in the clucth release system?
Could've been something much more serious too - but hey atleast now you have the clutch - just in case!