How to register a UK car in Ireland?

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How to register a UK car in Ireland?

Postby tim kelly » Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:03 pm

I've been working in the UK for a couple of years and I've got an FTO. I'm moving back home and I want to bring the motor with me.
What do I have to do to register it in Ireland, and any idea how long it takes?
I'm moving back at short notice, and I really need to sell it as soon as I can, so I'll include the details below in case anyone wants to buy it:

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Postby Dave » Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:05 pm

you'd have to bring it along to the VRT office, they'll charge you i think it's 30% of open market value (which they determine) and then they'll register it for you, then you've to get it taxed and NCT'd as well.
but it shouldn't take that long once you bring it to the VRT office.
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Postby kevinod » Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:12 pm

You might need to de-register it in the UK though, when I imported from Japan they were looking for the certificate of deregistration.

As a ball park figure, I imported mine from Japan in August (well it arrived in August) and cost €1617 VRT. Presumably you'll avoid the customs charges going from the UK, but I'm not sure whether you'll be charged VAT?

I don't know what exactly would be involved in bringing it from the UK, what exactly will be different from bringing it from Japan. Give the VRO a shout, they'll be able to tell you what you need to do straight away.

The process is quick enough to do but it can take a couple of weeks for the registration cert to arrive in the post. I had to fill in a DF-100 for importing, brought that in when taxing the car, and once you tax the car (road tax) they'll send you a registration cert.

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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:06 pm

I was under the impression that if you owned the car in the UK for 6 months or more and had a UK address you would not be liable for tax on importing the car for your own personal use.

TBH - You'd be better off selling the car in the UK where you should get 4500 - 5000 GBP sterling and buying another FTO over here - €7,500 would buy you a better FTO on this side of the pond.
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Postby Mustang » Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:13 pm

Tim,
If you have been normally resident in the uk for the last number of years, living and working (minimum requirement 185 days in a 12 month period) up to date of importation. Then you should be able to bring the car into Ireland without paying VRT (I believe this also applies to the VAT and import duty). You need to prove your resident status in the uk, and ownership and use of the car. Essentially you are deemed to be moving location within the EU and are not penalised with taxes (I think!).
However the catch in all of this is that you are required to retain ownership of the vehicle for a period of 12months after registration in Ireland, otherwise you'll have to pay the VRT.
As kevin said the OMSP of a '95 FTO will be between €5000 & €6000 and you would have to pay 30% of that.

Check out the document VRT 3 Tax relief on transfer of residence
on http://www.revenue.ie/index.htm

If you are not going to keep the car long term you would probably be better off to sell it in the UK, as FTO prices there are generally higher than here in Ireland.

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Postby Mustang » Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:16 pm

Damn it MyFeckin FTO got in while I was still typing :x
Hate when that happens :!:
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Postby CJ » Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:19 pm

You don't pay VAT on import from the UK, just VRT. I'd tend to agree with the others as regards selling it in the UK, FTOs generally command better prices over the water.

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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:50 pm

Mustang wrote:Damn it MyFeckin FTO got in while I was still typing :x
Hate when that happens :!:


You'll have to be quicker than that to catch me Mustang. :wink:

BTW - Good to meet up with you last week - I'll have to get a burn in your car next time.
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Postby tim kelly » Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:10 pm

Thanks for the info lads. I don't think bringing it home is much of an option.
However, its kind of an emergency that brings me home, and will shortly cause me to have to leave Europe too! So, I've been trying to offload it quicktime here... :?
Problem is I'm leaving on Tuesday and so have to sell her before then. I've advertised her on the fto website here, and on the autotrader website, but have had no luck yet. Interest, but no offers. :(

Anybody know any other advertisements I should be making???? :roll:

Thanks for your help.

Japanese miracle for sale!!!! :x
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Postby Mustang » Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:35 pm

Tim,
Even trying to sell the car at a give away price, is going to be difficult given your time frame! Unless you can either get someone to sell it on your behalf or return to the UK at some future time to sell the car, (I guess not an option if this is a permanent move!).
I guess you could try an FTO specialist in the UK and see would they buy the car off you on a straight deal -no harm in asking! new era imports or Japco spring to mind. You'd obviously have to take a hit for a quick sale.
I you have time here in Ireland you could try selling it here. Obviously the VRT is going to complicate matters but probably best to sort this out yourself. No point advertising "uk import duty not paid" (so many of those adds in the classifieds, not for FTO's mind!). People don't want the hassle as there are enough 'Irish' cars on the market without the strings attached. You really would need to be giving the car away to do a deal at short notice under those circumstances.
Really it all comes down to how much time have you got?
If you do decide to sell here I'd put an add in the for sale forum. A low mileage manual V6 should be relatively easy to shift, and there are always a few potential buyers looking around the site.

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Postby Neil » Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:35 pm

mate i will buy that car off you...

when are you planning on selling?
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Postby kevinod » Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:52 pm

Came across a link on the Revenue's website, where you can calculate VRT! Handy out...

https://www.ros.ie/VRTEnquiryServlet/showVRT

Put in sports - non convertible for the body type (mine is registered as a liftback but that didn't work). I put in March as the original registration date in Japan, came back with an OMP of about 5150 I think it was, and VRT rate of 1551.

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Postby Diddler » Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:06 pm

Guys,

We’ve been through this before and here’s the thread:

http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/phpBB2 ... highlight=
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Postby Mustang » Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:06 pm

Kevinod wrote
Came across a link on the Revenue's website, where you can calculate VRT! Handy out...

https://www.ros.ie/VRTEnquiryServlet/showVRT

Excellent! Didn't know that service was available, well that takes the guess work out of it, and the need to ring up one of the VRO's everytime you want a quote. Also means you can get a quote in print -nice one.
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Postby Dave » Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:17 pm

check out the VRT on a 98 Skyline GTR, 12180!! wonder why i never bought one of these! :shock:
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:55 pm

Diddler wrote:Guys,

We’ve been through this before and here’s the thread:

http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/phpBB2 ... highlight=


Diddler,

This thread doesn't deal with importing from the UK if you are already the UK registered owner which is Tims current situation. As said - Tim will only need to pay tax on his FTO if he intends on selling within the 12months in Ireland.

Tim - it would make no sense selling this car in Ireland within the 12 month period as you'd have to pay tax on it - better you leave it sit in Ireland for the 12months and resell next year or sell in UK before you go.

Suggest you get rid of it in the UK for whatever you can get for it.
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Postby kevinod » Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:59 pm

Dave wrote:check out the VRT on a 98 Skyline GTR, 12180!! wonder why i never bought one of these! :shock:


OUCH! :shock: Flippin' eck thats unreal.... what would one of those cost before VRT?

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Postby Neil » Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:53 pm

Sorry when i wrote my previous reply i had only read the original post (skipped all the replies)..

I'll be looking to buy around March, and was considering buying from the uk as an option so when i saw your post id thought id struck gold as there wouldnt have to be any vrt paid... (damn that 12month clause :x)

but i would still be VERY interested if you do end up bringing it over here with you, so let us know what you end up doing

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Postby Neil » Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:19 pm

oh yeh and heres a good thread with just about everything about importing from the uk - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=176389
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