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E85 Prices
Posted:
Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:15 amby Muad_dib77
Hi guys,
With the price on conversion kits coming down and the price on petrol going up I'm putting some serious thought into getting a "flexi fuel" kit installed.
A crucial part of the process though is to know the cost of e85 though. Does anybody know if there's a "price watch" type site that will show the current prices of e85?
Posted:
Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:37 amby d_dan
84 cents
Posted:
Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:14 amby Muad_dib77
thanks Dan.
Posted:
Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:14 pmby Mustang
here you go
http://www.pumps.ie/index.php
no mention of E85 though.
Posted:
Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:24 pmby Mickthepieman
Try this site
http://www.emo.ie/products/e85.html
What would it cost to convert over to E85 and is it a big job
Posted:
Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:16 pmby Muad_dib77
It'll cost between 300 and 600e.. installation is dead simple.. provided you're going for a converter kit..
I've made this quick little sheet..
Update the figures at the top and calculations and the graph will adjust accordingly.
e85.xls
file is available for the next 89 days..
Here's an installation video
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=IWNOiQQV_ ... re=related
Now - keep in mind you'd need to find a kit with the right connections..
Posted:
Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:31 pmby mcgon1979
It's 25% cheaper, but 25% less fuel economy or something like that right? anyone have the figures for how the MPG compares?
Posted:
Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:39 pmby Muad_dib77
mcgon1979 wrote:It's 25% cheaper, but 25% less fuel economy or something like that right? anyone have the figures for how the MPG compares?
I've heard that somewhere else - but that's not what I've seen with e5 over standard petrol..
Here's an article on it...
http://www.agriculture.com/ag/story.jht ... 565893.xml
loads more if you google it..
Posted:
Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:46 pmby mcgon1979
yeah, E5 drop in mpg would be unnoticeable really. It's only 5% ethanol. E85 is 85% ethanol. ethanol is less calorific than petrol. less energy from the same volume. but higher octane rating.
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Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:49 pmby Muad_dib77
uhm yeah true true..
Looks like there might be a drop of 20-30% mileage wise according to the various articles. I guess if that is the case from a financial point of view you'd end up pretty much where you're left with e5 seeing as you'd need to refuel more often.
Posted:
Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:57 pmby Wildhound
E5 actually increases your fuel economy because it's higher octane than the standard muck we get here and thus burns more completely, realeasing more energy.
However because ethanol has lower energy content than petrol, as you increase the percentage the fuel economy begins to fall.
Posted:
Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:09 pmby Mustang
Looks suspiciously easy. There's a guy in the Nissan SX owners club, who remapped his car to run on E85 (only). Some massive bhp >300bhp. But Ithink he also had to change injectors and possibly the fuel pump.
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Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:15 pmby Muad_dib77
Mustang wrote:Looks suspiciously easy. There's a guy in the Nissan SX owners club, who remapped his car to run on E85 (only). Some massive bhp >300bhp. But Ithink he also had to change injectors and possibly the fuel pump.
Yeah he went for the full power conversion (it was JP or something right? Red Jobbie I think).. Afaik he had the power fc commander and a full map set up. That car would only run on e85.. but it was da bomb so to speak...
Posted:
Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:54 amby d_dan
e 85 is 120 odd octaine, its fecking rocket fuel compaired ot what the sell you in your local esso
Posted:
Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:43 amby Muad_dib77
d_dan wrote:e 85 is 120 odd octaine, its fecking rocket fuel compaired ot what the sell you in your local esso
Sorry dan..but no..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85
Octane rating is 104-105ish...
http://www.maxol.ie/index2.php?option=c ... df=1&id=22
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:59 amby steelroe
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:44 amby Muad_dib77
steelroe wrote:http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=aO2gIeB02d4&feature=related
yeah saw that - very good.
quite odd though - apparently one of the guys in the sxoc filled his 200sx went for a drive and langered his engine..
Posted:
Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:42 amby Mustang
d_dan wrote:84 cents
Maud,
As stated above Emo are now selling E85 I passed one of their station over the weekend. €1.17 per litre.
Posted:
Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:22 amby Muad_dib77
Mustang wrote:d_dan wrote:84 cents
Maud,
As stated above Emo are now selling E85 I passed one of their station over the weekend. €1.17 per litre.
Wow that's somewhat of a price hike isn't it?
Somebody told me 95cents just the other day..
Man, I wish there was some way of tracking this..
Posted:
Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:27 amby Mustang
Muad_dib77 wrote:Mustang wrote:d_dan wrote:84 cents
Maud,
As stated above Emo are now selling E85 I passed one of their station over the weekend. €1.17 per litre.
Wow that's somewhat of a price hike isn't it?
Somebody told me 95cents just the other day..
Man, I wish there was some way of tracking this..
I live very close to a maxol station but their billboard only seems to have two inserts, so they aonly advertise the unleaded E5 and diesel. You don't find out the price of the E85 until you lift the hose.
Posted:
Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:02 pmby Mustang
Maud,
Just to update this (the EMO price I gave above doesn't seem to make sence -too high for E85, too low for unleaded).
Anyway called into my local maxol last night. and checked the price of E85 at the pump. 97.9 cent per litre.