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Postby kevinod » Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:28 pm

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long shot I know but thought it might be worth asking... I'd like to get my hands on a white dial kit with black lettering like in this pic from funky product: http://www.funkyproduct.co.uk/item_detail.php?prodID=930

I asked Funky product but they tell me they're out of production and no longer in stock, so they can't supply it.

Anyone any ideas where I might get my hands on these? There's a few dial kits on ebay, white and red or green or blue, but they don't do it for me. The white/black ones IMHO look very well, esp with the deep rings and alu cups.

Alternatively, any other nice dials around?

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Postby CJ » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:24 pm

Kev, have you seen this DIY kit on ebay? I'd want to see close up pics of the result mind you, I'm not sure if photographic paper would let enough light thru. Interesting idea mind you.

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Postby kevinod » Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:44 am

CJ wrote:Kev, have you seen this DIY kit on ebay? I'd want to see close up pics of the result mind you, I'm not sure if photographic paper would let enough light thru. Interesting idea mind you.

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I saw that at some stage but there were a couple of things that put me off them - only tip rev counter, mph speedo, and I wasn't sure about what I could print them on I kept looking.

Might be worth getting my hands on though at the same time alright... if I couldn't use them directly maybe I could use them as a base for what I want myself...

Do you know can the existing dials come off easy? If I could just scan those and make the white black and the black white I'd be happy enough, just need to print them on something then.

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Postby Mustang » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:27 pm

Kev,
Anything on this site of interest to you?

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http://www.kmc-products.com/
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Postby CJ » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:47 pm

Hmm, KMC are reopening, good stuff. You might have to wait a few weeks though:

Though this shop is open, it is in its early stages and probably wont be committed to it till Mid March


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Postby CJ » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:50 pm

CJ wrote:Hmm, KMC are reopening, good stuff. You might have to wait a few weeks though:

Though this shop is open, it is in its early stages and probably wont be committed to it till Mid March


These look excellent, no KPH dial by the looks of things :(

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Postby kevinod » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:50 pm



Thanks for the link, I don't think I'd come across those guys. Some nice stuff on there, pretty similar to funkyproduct.co.uk but a few £ cheaper on most of the interior stuff.

Neither dial kit really catches the eye though... I'll keep an eye out for any more.

I was onto that guy with the ebay auction CJ added above, asked him if there was a km/h dial and a rev counter dial, he said that all the dials for my car are included, so hopefully thats a yes... I asked him about what to print the dials on, and he said "you simply print them onto thick glossy printing paper". I guess the light onto the dial comes from the front, in which case that would be fine...

I haven't had any of those dial kits in my hand, does that sound ok to you guys who have?

I think i'll get hold of a cd off him and try it out, £5.99 not much to lose anyway, if it works out I could even make up a few dials and sell them meself! :D

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Postby CJ » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:52 pm

kevinod wrote:Thanks for the link, I don't think I'd come across those guys.


Kwok has been belting out FTO accessories for about 5 years now, he recently shut shop due to litigation. I'm glad to see him back in biz :)

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Postby kevinod » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:52 pm

CJ wrote:These look excellent, no KPH dial by the looks of things :(

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That dial on the top right, though marked mph and with km/h in the middle, looks very similar to a std kmh dial? Comparing it to the 120mph dial just beside it anyway...

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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:53 pm

kevinod wrote:


... I asked him about what to print the dials on, and he said "you simply print them onto thick glossy printing paper". I guess the light onto the dial comes from the front, in which case that would be fine...

I haven't had any of those dial kits in my hand, does that sound ok to you guys who have?

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Kev - do you have to cut out your existing dials?
Can't imagine much light coming through without cutting the existing dials out - and then what happens if the new dials look sh1te? You may not be able to replace with the originals.

I have the Stainless Steels dials with blue numbering - v nice at night - but they were a female dog to fit - had to cut out existing dials and then try and bend the stainless steel dials to fit over the needles - lucky not to break anything in the process - I have heard a few horror stories in this regard.

I would be slow to use the "print them yourself" method - it is unlikely to come anywhere close to the quality of the Funky/KMC dials.
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Postby kevinod » Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:05 pm

Myfeckin FTO wrote:
Kev - do you have to cut out your existing dials?
Can't imagine much light coming through without cutting the existing dials out - and then what happens if the new dials look sh1te? You may not be able to replace with the originals.

I would be slow to use the "print them yourself" method - it is unlikely to come anywhere close to the quality of the Funky/KMC dials.


I wasn't planning on cutting anything out, but I haven't fitted any of these so I don't know what setup of the lighting/etc is, isn't the bulb at the front?

My plan is to print some off and see how they look before putting them on, and then maybe put them on see what its like at night. If its not cool then I'll just take them off, put it back the way it was, and try something else.

Those white dial kits like on Ebay, don't they just sit over the existing dials? I presume you don't need to cut anything for those?

I'm a bit igorant with white dials, not having done it before, the Xsara came with nice white dials when I got it. Think I'll try to get my hands on an installation guide for a dial kit and see *exactly* whats involved.

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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:35 pm

kevinod wrote:I wasn't planning on cutting anything out, but I haven't fitted any of these so I don't know what setup of the lighting/etc is, isn't the bulb at the front?
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The dials are backlit - so the bulbs are behind the dials.

Recommend you take out the dials first to see what you will have to do - just unscrew the two screws (vertical into the dash) that is holding in the dial surround and pull out the dial unit - it will then be clear what you need to do - I would imagine you'll have to cut out the existing dials to allow enough light to view the new dials - hence my concern re the printed dials as there'll be no going back if you think it looks sh1te.
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Postby kevinod » Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:38 pm

Myfeckin FTO wrote:
kevinod wrote:I wasn't planning on cutting anything out, but I haven't fitted any of these so I don't know what setup of the lighting/etc is, isn't the bulb at the front?
Kev.


The dials are backlit - so the bulbs are behind the dials.

Recommend you take out the dials first to see what you will have to do - just unscrew the two screws (vertical into the dash) that is holding in the dial surround and pull out the dial unit - it will then be clear what you need to do - I would imagine you'll have to cut out the existing dials to allow enough light to view the new dials - hence my concern re the printed dials as there'll be no going back if you think it looks sh1te.


Cool, thanks for the tip, I'll try to check that out this evening...

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Postby Mustang » Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:43 pm

The DIY kit sounds to me too much like it's from the Blue Peter/ Bosco school of car interior design. However like Kev says at £5.99 you don't stand to loose too much. My biggest concern would be trying to cut the dials correctly, without botching the job. Remember to get an adult to help you with the scissors :lol:

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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:49 pm

Mustang wrote:.... My biggest concern would be trying to cut the dials correctly, without botching the job. .Mustang


This would be actually the easiest part of the job - they are just the same templates as the Funky dials so you just have to cut them from around the bezel - its a 2 second job.

My biggest concern would be that all the dials would still be funtional and calibrated correctly after the new dials are fitted - oh yeah - and don't break the needles - they are pretty easy to snap.
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Postby kevinod » Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:56 pm

Mustang wrote:The DIY kit sounds to me too much like it's from the Blue Peter/ Bosco school of car interior design. However like Kev says at £5.99 you don't stand to loose too much. My biggest concern would be trying to cut the dials correctly, without botching the job. Remember to get an adult to help you with the scissors :lol:

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:lol: I'll save up my toilet roll inserts, buy some paste and get Mary Fitzgerald down for a make and do session! :lol:
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Postby CJ » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:53 pm

kevinod wrote:get Mary Fitzgerald down for a make and do session


Sounds a bit dodgy to me, Mary could take you up wrong there...

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Postby kevinod » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:45 am

CJ wrote:
kevinod wrote:get Mary Fitzgerald down for a make and do session


Sounds a bit dodgy to me, Mary could take you up wrong there...

CJ


I remember the days when make and do was a wholesome family pasttime... :lol:

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Postby kevinod » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:26 pm

Came across this page with guides on how to install stuff like deep dial rings and dash surrounds, good how-to on opening up the dash.

http://www.type-f.co.uk/guides/index.html

Didn't get to try it myself last night, I was putting my bluetooth car kit display in place and it got a bit late.

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Postby CJ » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:35 pm

kevinod wrote:Came across this page with guides on how to install stuff like deep dial rings and dash surrounds, good how-to on opening up the dash.


Replacing dials and the like on an FTO is a fairly easy task, if you're removing needles theres a knack to doing it correctly, but otherwise its not difficult.

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Postby CJ » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:24 am

I'm looking into the possibility of getting backlit dials printed up on polycarbonate plastic with the www.fto-ireland.com logo as part of the design, I'm just trying to gauge costs etc at this stage, how many of you would be interested? Obviously, all tastes can't be catered for in terms of design etc but colour is something that would be flexible to a certain degree. I'm happy to PM interested parties the base design for review.

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Postby Dave » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:28 am

i would be interested in something new alright, there's none out there that really do it for me.

oh i've to send some cash onto you via paypal in the next couple of days.
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Postby kevinod » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:33 am

CJ wrote:I'm looking into the possibility of getting backlit dials printed up on polycarbonate plastic with the www.fto-ireland.com logo as part of the design, I'm just trying to gauge costs etc at this stage, how many of you would be interested? Obviously, all tastes can't be catered for in terms of design etc but colour is something that would be flexible to a certain degree. I'm happy to PM interested parties the base design for review.

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I'd be interested in seeing those, might save the need for the toilet roll inserts and empty washing up liquid bottles... :wink:

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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:05 am

kevinod wrote:I'd be interested in seeing those, might save the need for the toilet roll inserts and empty washing up liquid bottles... :wink: Kev.


Drat - I was looking forward to hearing about the make & do effort.

CJ - are you also going to do the Clock and Volt dials?
There will be different rev dials needed for Tip and Manual - GS/GR and GPX dials - that sounds like a bit of work.
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Postby CJ » Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:39 pm

Myfeckin FTO wrote:CJ - are you also going to do the Clock and Volt dials?


Yep

Myfeckin FTO wrote:There will be different rev dials needed for Tip and Manual - GS/GR and GPX dials - that sounds like a bit of work.


GR\GPX tip and manual aren't an issue (GR\GPX dials interchangeable), however, I don't have samples for the GS :?

This is all very provisional at this stage, the tooling cost could be prohibitive and may not make it worthwhile, I'll post up guide prices once they're available.

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