GPX or GR/GX

[adrian]

Sorry for all the Quetions but... I'm actively looking for a 2L FTO to import as ya know. 1998 or 1999! Very excited but finding a good manual GPX is hard. So, choosing a GR or a GX will help broaden my scope for getting a nice machine big time. But, would you hold out for that good GPX or just go get a nice GX or GR?

What I'm really asking is is the GPX worth extra. Is it a better drive? Is resale value higher for a manual GPX over a manual GR/GX. Would a manual GPX be more attractive when selling.

GPvRs are 20% more expensive and so pushing the price a little high.

Thanks guys.

[adrian]

This type of post usually sparks huge debate on the UK forums...... come on ....

[CJ]

This type of post usually sparks huge debate on the UK forums...... come on ....

We're more relaxed about things you see, and its Friday as well

So, choosing a GR or a GX will help broaden my scope for getting a nice machine big time. But, would you hold out for that good GPX or just go get a nice GX or GR?

Me: Hold out for a GPvR
You: I want a car and I want it now!

It sounds to me like you've already made a decision that you'll accept a GR\GX if then right one comes up. remember, good things come to those that wait.

What I'm really asking is is the GPX worth extra.

Depends on how highly you value an extra 25bhp, a set of side skirts,
folding mirrors, two pot calipers, larger brake disks, a nicer looking engine bay and a MIVEC addiction. IMO, yes its worth it.

Is it a better drive?

GPX brakes will stop you quicker so you'll have peace of mind when you're pushing it a bit and you need to stop in a hurry. The MIVEC kicking in certainly makes a spirited drive much more pleasureable. Apart from that, not a whole lot else to consider.

Is resale value higher for a manual GPX over a manual GR/GX.

Yes, marginally

Would a manual GPX be more attractive when selling.

To people like us, yes. To MIVEC lovers, yes. To Joe Soap, not a whole lot.

GPvRs are 20% more expensive and so pushing the price a little high.

You're going to a lot of hassle to import a car. Get the best you can if you're putting the effort in. If I was doing this, I'd be concentrating on a GPvR in good condition. Failing that, I'd be looking for a GPX in excellent condition. The resale value on a GPvR will be much more than a GPX, they are rare as hell and as such carry a certain wow factor.

Decide exactly what option suits you and go for it.....

Ciaran

[soc]

I agree with Ciaran. If you're gonna go to all the trouble and expense of importing direct then you should get something that you cannot get over here, i.e. a GPvR.

As regards the diff between a GPX and a GR - only diffs I can really see are the noise (which is supposed to be superb, although I've never heard it myself) and the brakes. As far as speed, power etc goes - from what I can see on the UK forums and sites the 2 cars are pretty evenly matched and its the box (tip Vs Man) that will make the biggest difference.

If I were you my first choice would be to get a GPvR with second choice an immaculate manual GPX, GR or GX - although to be honest for what you're talking about spending (€14) I'd be lob on an extra €4-6 and grab myself an nice Evo IV or V.

[Ivan E]

GR has folding mirrors and the extra 25hp really only kicks in at higher revs so more for top end speed I am lead to believe.

But you'll know which one you want when you see it.

[Ivan E]

Forgot to add, top end speeds in this country are hardly going to do much for you considering points and road conditions.

[Viper]

But folding mirrors are brilliant in Irish Car Parks/tight country roads with a tractor approaching...

[soc]

But folding mirrors are brilliant in Irish Car Parks/tight country roads with a tractor approaching...

LOL

[soc]

GR has folding mirrors and the extra 25hp really only kicks in at higher revs so more for top end speed I am lead to believe.

But you'll know which one you want when you see it.

GR or GPX - the only thing you will want is more low down torque for those quick 10 - 30mph bursts in dublin traffic. Nothing worse than a tart in a poxy little hatch thinking he can keep with you in traffic when you can't get over 30mph......... oh how I love when the traffic clears and you can drop a gear, see the revs shoot over 4.5K and feel the car rip forward leaving the little s**t gobsmacked - and even better is doing this on the motorway, ripping from 60-100-60 just so you can see the little s**ts "I wish I had a faster car" face

[Kace]

GPVR will not be worth anything more here in Ireland and for all intents and purposes it is the same as a GPX. OK you get fancy front seats, HID lights and a limited slip but IMHO it's not really worth 2k for this stuff - although I would love to have this extra kit .

For me the manual is the business, but that's personal preference. The MIVEC is also something that sets this car apart from most others on the road. You should hear it with induction kit and cat bypass. Still gives me a kick when it can set off car alarms in an underground car park

[CJ]

GPVR will not be worth anything more here in Ireland

I disagree, I know I'd pay the extra for owning a more exclusive model, its people like us that would be willing to pay that bit extra.

Ciaran

[Daz]

There can only be one choice if you going down the road of importing yourself and that it

GPvR

Yes more expensive and yes you could add on an extra 8k and get a
evo V i have been considering an evo myself but the more i think about it the more i couldn't justify the fuel comsumption on an evo. and if i could figure out how to get on the importing site to view the cars i'd be looking at nothing but GPvR's but thats just me

[adrian]

and if i could figure out how to get on the importing site to view the cars i'd be looking at nothing but GPvR's but thats just me

Daz,

Go onto www.autoterminal.com and register. They'll send you a password and then log in and go to the IDirect site.

Why are you so keen on the GPvR??

[CJ]

Why are you so keen on the GPvR??

C'mon Adrian, do you really need to ask this question?
The GPvRs limited availability and exclusiveness makes it a more desirable model. Apart from saving a couple of grand and having more choice, I can't think why you would would want a GPX over a GPvR Aero series?

Ciaran

[adrian]

Yea, I know that they’re limited etc, but not many come up on the searches, any ones that do are just GPvR and not Aero series and 2K is 2K no matter what….and I was just kinda thinking it’s still a MIVEC 2L engine. 2,000 would go along way to modding a GPX!

[soc]

Yea, I know that they’re limited etc, but not many come up on the searches, any ones that do are just GPvR and not Aero series and 2K is 2K no matter what….and I was just kinda thinking it’s still a MIVEC 2L engine. 2,000 would go along way to modding a GPX!

Aye but for 2K you wouldn't turn a GPX into a GPvR Aero or even a GPvR. Am I right in thinking LSD only comes on the GPvR... add that to the already lowered suspension, strut braces, lighter weight and manual gearbox and you have one serious car.

[Daz]

Yea, I know that they’re limited etc, but not many come up on the searches, any ones that do are just GPvR and not Aero series and 2K is 2K no matter what….and I was just kinda thinking it’s still a MIVEC 2L engine. 2,000 would go along way to modding a GPX!

Ahh but with a GPvR there will be no need to mod apart from mabey a zorst and induction kit but everything else will be sorted.

Daz...

[soc]

Yea, I know that they’re limited etc, but not many come up on the searches, any ones that do are just GPvR and not Aero series and 2K is 2K no matter what….and I was just kinda thinking it’s still a MIVEC 2L engine. 2,000 would go along way to modding a GPX!

Ahh but with a GPvR there will be no need to mod apart from mabey a zorst and induction kit but everything else will be sorted.

Daz...

Mmmmm, I think I'd go for a new exhuast, induction kit, 18's, skirts, rear bumper and some coilovers....

[adrian]

Guys,

What's the difference between a GPvR and a GPvR Aero?? From photos alone I can't see any diff....but obviously there must be

A

[CJ]

The Aero series has the following on top of the standard GPvR spec:

Side skirts, discharge headlights, a stereo (!), aircon and a keyless entry system.

Ciaran

[Dean]

GR has folding mirrors and the extra 25hp really only kicks in at higher revs so more for top end speed I am lead to believe.

But you'll know which one you want when you see it.

???

Dont they all have folding mirrors? My GS has folding mirrors, or are there mirrors that fold even more?

[CJ]

Electric folding mirrors where standard on the GPX/GR Aero/GPvR Aero but was a factory option on all other models.

Ciaran

[Dean]

Electric folding mirrors where standard on the GPX/GR Aero/GPvR Aero but was a factory option on all other models.

Ciaran

Cool he musta done factory option.