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Camber adjustment

Postby kevinod » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:33 pm

Guys,

the camber (i.e. vertical orientation, top of wheel further in or out than bottom) isn't adjustable on the FTO as standard, right? You'd need to add parts on there to make it adjustable?

Put KYB shocks on the front of mine over the weekend, but forgot to mark which way the top plate went, discovered after it matters, so the camber is way out, top of the wheel is too far in.

Borrowing my brother's ZX for work today.

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Re: Camber adjustment

Postby paulkenny » Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:59 pm

kevinod wrote:Guys,

the camber (i.e. vertical orientation, top of wheel further in or out than bottom) isn't adjustable on the FTO as standard, right? You'd need to add parts on there to make it adjustable?

Put KYB shocks on the front of mine over the weekend, but forgot to mark which way the top plate went, discovered after it matters, so the camber is way out, top of the wheel is too far in.

Borrowing my brother's ZX for work today.

Kev.


Yep, it's adjustable alright ...just got mine sorted by DTAS last week ...highly recommend them.
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Postby kevinod » Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:02 pm

I've just read on ftooc that the back is adjustable but the front isn't as standard... do you have adjustable camber bolts on yours by any chance?

I've been trying to suss it out on the front but can't see where I can possibly adjust it. :smt017
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:53 pm

Correct - the back is adjustable for camber - if they adjusted the front it would likely have just been for toe.

I wonder how useful that front adjustable camber kit is?
Anyone here fitted it yet? :smt017
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Postby steelroe » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:58 am

Fitted the camber bolts with the KYB's and it brought the cambar back to where it should be.
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Postby kevinod » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:45 am

steelroe wrote:Fitted the camber bolts with the KYB's and it brought the cambar back to where it should be.


Do the KYBs throw out the camber? Been struggling with this half of Sunday and this evening after changing them on Saturday.

The bolts off camskill (click here)?
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Postby kevinod » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:33 am

Well soab... did a search back and found this pearl of info from Steelroe (03 oct 05):

steelroe wrote:OEM shock are made by KYB but are only available through Mitsi for aftermarket sale.
The ones sold by Camskill are actually for the Volvo S40. Exactly the same sizing as the OEM, only difference is the angle of the seat for the coil spring. When fitted they knock thec camber steeing outside specification. Adjustable camber bolts may sort the problem but not sure with 18"



I'll be calling Mike in Camskill first thing in the morning to get a set of adjustable camber bolts sent out methinks!
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Postby kevinod » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:34 am

Spoke to Camskill this morning, and they reckon that the kyb shocks wouldn't cause a change in camber. He did mention there were shocks you can get that would fit but may cause that though.

Mine were an ebay purchase, saved a few quid (or did I :roll: ) so now I'm not sure. He was helpful with regards to the orientation of the top spring cup, the holes should line up exactly with the holes on the shock, so I'll take a look at that this evening.

I ordered the adjustable camber bolts anyway, might well be useful to put those on there, and ended up ordering a set of Apex lowering springs while I was at it. Didn't mean to but while I'm messing around with springs and stuff anyway... anyone got the number for 'modders anonymous'? I have a problem! :lol:
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Postby CJ » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:58 am

kevinod wrote:I ordered the adjustable camber bolts anyway, might well be useful to put those on there


I seem to remember Shane (soc) fitting camber bolts on his GR some time back, have a search of the forum and see what comes back...

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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:26 pm

kevinod wrote: He was helpful with regards to the orientation of the top spring cup, the holes should line up exactly with the holes on the shock, so I'll take a look at that this evening.


I think this is much more likely to be your problem - its a common enough mistake guys make when they change the dampers themselves.
I had no camber issues with my KYB's from Camskill.
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Postby CJ » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:29 pm

Myfeckin FTO wrote:I had no camber issues with my KYB's from Camskill.


Same here, its all been good.

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Postby Muad_dib77 » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:30 pm

A quick question kinda related..

If I get tracking - camber asll that that stuff adjusted on starndard springs...will that all go out the window when I fit lowering springs??
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Postby kevinod » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:34 pm

I don't think tracking should be affected by lowering springs but the camber would be alright.
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Postby kevinod » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:38 pm

I'm taking a half day, have stuff I need to do this afternoon but I should hopefully get a good run on working on this this evening.

Worst case I'll put back on the old ones and wait for the adjustable bolts to arrive.

thanks for the feedback guys, any more thoughts or comments welcome of course too. :smt023
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:45 pm

Muad_dib77 wrote:A quick question kinda related..

If I get tracking - camber asll that that stuff adjusted on starndard springs...will that all go out the window when I fit lowering springs??



I would say both tracking and camber will need to be adjusted after lowering.

BTW - When I fitted my KYB's there was a slight difference in the chamber on the front over the standard dampers - but it was only slightly over spec and on the good side of overspec IMO (ie slightly more negative - better handling).
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Postby soc » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:10 pm

CJ wrote:
kevinod wrote:I ordered the adjustable camber bolts anyway, might well be useful to put those on there


I seem to remember Shane (soc) fitting camber bolts on his GR some time back, have a search of the forum and see what comes back...

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Yea, I fitted adjustable camber bolts to my old GR - they're very easy to fit - and setting them is reasonably straight forward but my advice would be get somewhere with laser alighment to adjust them to an appropriate camber - I did mine myself and set them to the max allowed of -1.5 and while they handling was amazing it made the car a bit twitchy -

http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/phpBB2 ... ght=camber

I did put them up for sale with some offset castor bushes but in the end I didn have the castor bushes fitted (dunno what happened to the camber bolts though)
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