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Postby paulUK » Thu May 11, 2006 12:21 pm

starting to get desparate, please help my fto is constantly ruddering although mainly slight, very annoying and obviously something wrong. engine is great i think its something else, any ideas please :(
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Postby CJ » Thu May 11, 2006 12:41 pm

paulUK wrote:starting to get desparate, please help my fto is constantly ruddering although mainly slight, very annoying and obviously something wrong. engine is great i think its something else, any ideas please :(


Hi Paul

Can you give us some more info, what do you mean by 'ruddering'?

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Postby paulUK » Thu May 11, 2006 12:55 pm

thats whats really hard its feels like only fireing on 5.9 cyls but i am sure engines sound. after reading some post i dont know when trans fluid was changed if ever. only had car 2 weeks. it is possibly coming from nearside maybe drive shaft maybe gearbox really hard to say
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Postby paulUK » Thu May 11, 2006 12:58 pm

p.s. is 7.8ltrs correct amount of fluid for gr triptronic gearbox
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Postby CJ » Thu May 11, 2006 1:03 pm

paulUK wrote:p.s. is 7.8ltrs correct amount of fluid for gr triptronic gearbox


Yes, thats correct for a full change.

Paul, has the car been serviced recently? If not, you should consider changing engine oil+filter, gearbox oil+filter, plugs and fuel filter and take then it from there, if the problem is sill apparent, I'd suggest bring the car to a mechanic for a professional opinion....

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Postby paulUK » Thu May 11, 2006 1:06 pm

yes thats why i am more or less sure its not the engine.
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Postby CJ » Thu May 11, 2006 1:39 pm

paulUK wrote:yes thats why i am more or less sure its not the engine.


If the engine is hesitating at high revs, it could be down to a clogged fuel filter, its not something that people think of changing very often. In the mean time, do the busine4ss with the ATF and see if theres any change....

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Postby kevinod » Thu May 11, 2006 1:50 pm

I dunno if you got it from a private sale or a garage, but if you've got a warranty on it I'd go back to whoever and get them to sort it out.

Try doing the diagnostic check to see if any error codes are coming from the ECU - http://www.ftowa.com/html/workshop/workshopart07.html, maybe a faulty sensor?
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Postby paulUK » Thu May 11, 2006 2:30 pm

no error codes... private sale..ordered transmission fliter here by 4pm.. but what spec transmisson fluid, i can find how much but not spec as yet and is there a pic of were gearbox sump plug is anywhere thx.
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Postby CJ » Thu May 11, 2006 2:45 pm

paulUK wrote:but what spec transmisson fluid, i can find how much but not spec as yet and is there a pic of were gearbox sump plug is anywhere thx.


Dextron III (3) trans fluid is what you're after. The drain plug is located on the RHS of the 'box looking from the front. See here for more info:

http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/phpBB2 ... php?t=2256

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Postby Damo » Thu May 11, 2006 5:00 pm

Do the fuel pressure regulator's ever need to be changed or cleaned?, just asking because on mine I changed the fuel filter and performance improved dramatically but I'm still not back to full power
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Postby kevinod » Thu May 11, 2006 5:16 pm

Isn't there 2 fuel filters, one at the tank and the other at the engine? Did you clean or change the second one too?
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Postby CJ » Thu May 11, 2006 5:48 pm

Damo wrote:Do the fuel pressure regulator's ever need to be changed or cleaned?, just asking because on mine I changed the fuel filter and performance improved dramatically but I'm still not back to full power


Did you fit an aftermarket FPR? They don't come as standard.

The filter in the tank is rarely, if ever, changed and generally shouldn't need to be over the life of a car, in saying that, I've never seen one to determine how filthy they get so don't quote me on that!

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Postby Damo » Fri May 12, 2006 9:34 am

kevinod wrote:Isn't there 2 fuel filters, one at the tank and the other at the engine? Did you clean or change the second one too?


I didn't know there was two, just changed the one at the Tank I think I didn't do it myself

CJ wrote:[Did you fit an aftermarket FPR? They don't come as standard. CJ


We didn't change the FPR CJ just a fuel filter, I was just curious about the regulator
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Postby paulUK » Fri May 12, 2006 3:38 pm

g box sump plug out as we speak alittle shocked by iron filings on the magnet but guess thats y its there. after this everthing serviced except fuel filter is there any diagrams or hints as to where it is.i notice today with a/c on rudder got worse maybe fuel the answer although rudder only happens or is noticable when cruising at steady speed (keeping at 60 for example) not accelerating . help has been excellent so far many thx.
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Postby kevinod » Fri May 12, 2006 3:59 pm

paulUK wrote:i notice today with a/c on rudder got worse


Thats interesting... check your belt pulley, maybe the bearings on it are shot and it needs to be replaced. That not going around smoothly would cause a bit of juddering. When the a/c comes on it would put a bit more load on the belts, which might explain the worse juddering you're describing.
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Postby kevinod » Fri May 12, 2006 4:00 pm

Actually if it is that get it sorted asap, it couldn't be too healthy for your engine I reckon.
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Postby CJ » Fri May 12, 2006 5:18 pm

paulUK wrote: after this everthing serviced except fuel filter is there any diagrams or hints as to where it is


The fuel filter is bolted onto the bulkhead, if you look down the back of the engine, you should spot it handy enough. It can be difficult to get at with the spanners though, you may need to remove the intale manifold to work on it. It looks like this:

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Postby paulUK » Fri May 12, 2006 6:26 pm

thx cj..i got about 6ltrs out of the gear-box using your method draining time 4hrs. sorry to be a nuisance but is it just a case of remove and replace with fuel fliter or is there any bleeding etc many thx paul
p.s. rudder still there so cam belt next i guess
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Postby CJ » Fri May 12, 2006 6:43 pm

paulUK wrote:sorry to be a nuisance but is it just a case of remove and replace with fuel fliter or is there any bleeding etc


Paul, I believe you have to depressurise the fuel system beforehand but I can't remember how its done (someone else will know). Check out this thread in the mean time:

http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/phpBB2 ... php?t=2093

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Postby paulUK » Fri May 12, 2006 7:12 pm

thx kev.. just checked lower and upper belt pulleys and i would say by the way i can move them with hands v.easily they are both shot :( .anyways any1 know the best way to get hold of the parts :?:
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Postby CJ » Fri May 12, 2006 9:24 pm

paulUK wrote:anyways any1 know the best way to get hold of the parts :?:


Paul, Camskill do next day delivery in the UK, ask for Mike, he knows his FTOs pretty well:

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m3b0s0p0

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Postby kevinod » Sat May 13, 2006 6:21 pm

No probs, penny dropped when you said it got worse with the a/c...

Camskill are good, RicerocketUK (David) on here is too.
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Postby paulUK » Sat May 20, 2006 7:49 pm

nearly cured but not completley gone main culprit.... fuel filter
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