New tyres

[alloywheelsinternational]

....i can get the rial daytona the only thing is that they are only showing as a 5-108 and 5-110 fitment at the minute.
i will contact wolfrace and see what the score is with them to see if there is an available 5-114 for the mitsi.............

Well I presume Shane is looking for a 5 x 100 for his bus. He is in the unenviable position of driving a VAG product over the FTO. He blames this quite frequently on the missus.

touché




Yea, I'd be looking at a 5x100 fitment - not sure on the offset - I'd have to check this - but probably looking for something like an 8x18 or 8.5x18 - wheel only as I'll stretch my current 225's

the wheels are discontinued,.
the rial daytona are no longer available and i had asked if there was a wheel to replace and they told me no not exactly like that wheel the next closest would be the rial daytona race but it is a 2 piece wheel costing approx £1300 for 18".

[Muad_dib77]

Slightly frustrated at this stage..

For now atleast it would seem that there are no goodyears to be had from rob at DTAS.. he simply can't get them..

He proceeded to offer me Dunlops FM901 and the P7 both at the same price.

I tried pushing him on the price but I couldn't get him lower than 185pr corner plus 60e for tracking..

That works out at exactly 800squids...

He did say that if I could source the rubbers he'd fit them for a mere 60e..fair enough I thought and went on to eiretyres.com ..all in all..it would work out at 796e... gah...

My only consolation is that Rice should have shipped my Apex springs today - so I have an excuse to hold off for a little bit...

[soc]

Maud, I got some F1's at 180 a corner from Sean McManus tyres up your neck of the woods - check out this post

http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/phpBB2 ... ight=eagle

[soc]

the wheels are discontinued,.
the rial daytona are no longer available and i had asked if there was a wheel to replace and they told me no not exactly like that wheel the next closest would be the rial daytona race but it is a 2 piece wheel costing approx £1300 for 18".

I was afraid of that - I'm considering changing the RS4 reps to something similar to the Rial Daytona's but the Daytona Race wheels are too expensive - there's another wheel called ASA AR1's that I'd be intersted in if hte price ain't too steep?

[Muad_dib77]

I found a place near my house that'll fit tyres for a tenner per corner.. they'll also adjust camber & tracking for me..and fit my lowering springs if I can't find some long sockets...

I've just ordered 4xProxies to stick on... I wanted to get the F1s but all the hassle of getting them has really put me off.. & I've heard good things about the proxies in the past, so here goes nothing...

""yay"" I think..

[Myfeckin FTO]

.....I've just ordered 4xProxies to stick on... I wanted to get the F1s but all the hassle of getting them has really put me off.. & I've heard good things about the proxies in the past, so here goes nothing...

""yay"" I think..

What model Proxes did you get Muad - Price?

[kevinod]

and fit my lowering springs if I can't find some long sockets...

Not sure what you need long sockets for... you could use an extension bar maybe? Although tbh if they're not asking for a lot to fit them it might be worth while. I don't mean to be discouraging to anyone wanting to do their own mechanical stuff but the nuts on the top of the shocks can be a PITA, I changed my back shocks and apex springs at the same time luckily enough 'cos I ended up snapping off the top of one of the original shocks top bits.

The back shocks have a narrow bit at the top you need to grip to stop the whole shock bar from rotating when you're loosening the nut, I had to get someone to help me out with it, and we ended up snapping off the top of one of the shocks coming out.

On the front, you need to stop the top spring cup from rotating when you're tightening that bolt or it'll throw the whole lot out of shape. Camber gets messed up and its not adjustable on the front wheels (without buying camber adjusting bolts). I've had a thought or two about how to do that but Mitsi actually have a special tool mentioned for it in the workshop manual.

I've just ordered 4xProxies to stick on... I wanted to get the F1s but all the hassle of getting them has really put me off.. & I've heard good things about the proxies in the past, so here goes nothing...

Good luck with the proxies... The F1s seem a little scarce at the moment but we know a guy who runs a distributors so hopefully he'll get them handy enough. Another crowd had 2 F1 235/40/17s in stock, didn't think I'd be able to find 2 more, and wanted €240 each.

[Myfeckin FTO]

........ Another crowd had 2 F1 235/40/17s in stock, didn't think I'd be able to find 2 more, and wanted €240 each.

This is the size I am hoping to switch to this month - looking for 4 X 235/40 17's at the moment (F1's / P Zero Nero / SO3's or RE 050) I have an 8.5 inch rim so should go on no problem - Its rolling radius should still be lower than the present 215/45 17' but I'm still a little worried about the width fouling the arch liner.

[Colin C]

I need to get new tyres in the next few weeks. I have the standard FTO 16" wheels. The tyres that are on it at the moment are Dunlop SP2000 205/55/R16. Looking back at other threads most people with 16" wheels seem to be going for a 50 profile. Is 50 or 55 standard? I'm looking at getting Eagle F1 GSD3's if possible. The only place I looked at the moment is www.eiretyres.com & got a price of €109.60 for 55 profile & €127.50 for 50 profile. That price is only tyres, VAT & p&p. Will still need to get them fitted.

[Colin C]

Just noticed there are 2 different Eagle F1 GSD3's. The €109.60 is for 205/55 R16 91W BSW. It's €112.90 for 205/55 R16 91W. Does anyone know what the BSW on the cheaper ones means?

[Muad_dib77]

What model Proxes did you get Muad - Price?

I ordered them of the Eiretyres.com

Place down the road will fit & balance at a tenner pr. corner..

Article No.: R-119103
Brand, Profile and Size: Toyo PROXES T1-R 215/35 ZR18 84W RF Rim-protection
No. of items: 4
price for one: 141.70 EUR
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Total VAT included: 566.80 EUR

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*** Links to reviews:
*** http://www.blackcircles.com/tyres/toyo ***
*** http://www.1010tires.com/tirereviews/To ... views.html ***
*** http://cars.ign.com/articles/604/604159p1.html ***

A bit of a mixed bag really especially the comments found on 1010tires..

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Wanted to get the Rimprotection - just in case..

somebody mentioned that I wouldn't need a long socket to do the center bolts on the struts..I can't get my socket to reach at all..I'll have another look tomorrow - there's a place near the harbor in Drogheda they might have some - but before I go I will ofcourse double check - seems kinda strange that I can't get it to fit at all..

Oh hey I was told by someone...seemed a bit of a plonker...that even if I didn't have spigot rings the wheel nuts should center out the wheel...
Sounds pretty rubbish to me - but thought I'd run it by you anyways...
what are your thoughts?

[Myfeckin FTO]

Just noticed there are 2 different Eagle F1 GSD3's. The €109.60 is for 205/55 R16 91W BSW. It's €112.90 for 205/55 R16 91W. Does anyone know what the BSW on the cheaper ones means?

Nothing to get excited about really - BSW just means "Black Side Wall" i.e. no raised lettering or coloured lettering etc. Shouldn't really impact on price??

In any case you should go for 205/50 R16's - a 55 profile would be wrong on this size.

[Myfeckin FTO]

Oh hey I was told by someone...seemed a bit of a plonker...that even if I didn't have spigot rings the wheel nuts should center out the wheel...
Sounds pretty rubbish to me - but thought I'd run it by you anyways...
what are your thoughts?

Talking through his hole unfortunately - it is essential that the wheel used has the correct centre bore to locate the rim correctly or at least a relevant spigot rim to site the rim - otherwise you will have wheel balance and vibration issues - I have seen this happen to a few guys that bought 2nd hand alloys and then wondered why their handling had gone to pot!

The wheel nuts are there to hold the wheel on - not support the weight of a car - worse case senario - the wheel moves around on the hub under load (cornering, braking etc) - bolts shear and wheel comes off at speed!
Set of Spigot rings cost circa 10Euros - worth having IMO.

[kevinod]

I have the standard FTO 16" wheels. The tyres that are on it at the moment are Dunlop SP2000 205/55/R16. Is 50 or 55 standard?

The 205/50/R16 are standard.

Just noticed there are 2 different Eagle F1 GSD3's. The €109.60 is for 205/55 R16 91W BSW. It's €112.90 for 205/55 R16 91W. Does anyone know what the BSW on the cheaper ones means?

I can only guess that the cheaper one is made in Korea. The Korean ones IIRC aren't quite as good quality as the others, some difference in the sidewall or something.

[kevinod]

somebody mentioned that I wouldn't need a long socket to do the center bolts on the struts..I can't get my socket to reach at all..I'll have another look tomorrow - there's a place near the harbor in Drogheda they might have some - but before I go I will ofcourse double check - seems kinda strange that I can't get it to fit at all..

Hmmm, I've done all 4 of my shocks without any particularly long sockets, pretty much standard size.

What are you trying to get at exactly that you can't get your socket to reach?? I used a short extension bar from a reasonably standard socket set to get to the lower nuts, and it worked for the bolt on the top of the strut bar too. It made life easier on the lower bolts too but I could have made do with the lower bolts if I needed to. The top bolt on the one I took off was 17mm and the one I replaced it as came with the new shock was 14mm.

Actually one of the best tool investments we've ever made is a long bar with a 1/4 inch driver at the end. There is no bolt I can't loosen with it. Having struggled a few times with stubborn bolts in the past I have to say it makes like ssooooo much easier. Leverage rules!!

[kevinod]

........ Another crowd had 2 F1 235/40/17s in stock, didn't think I'd be able to find 2 more, and wanted €240 each.

This is the size I am hoping to switch to this month - looking for 4 X 235/40 17's at the moment (F1's / P Zero Nero / SO3's or RE 050) I have an 8.5 inch rim so should go on no problem - Its rolling radius should still be lower than the present 215/45 17' but I'm still a little worried about the width fouling the arch liner.

Ya, the ones I have are 8" wide.... actually the 215 is supposed to be a bit stretched on 8" so they must be very stretched on the 8.5"?

I'm a bit concerned about my arch liner on 235s too tbh, but I guess I'll just have to see how it goes.

[Muad_dib77]

Talking through his hole unfortunately - it is essential that the wheel used has the correct centre bore to locate the rim correctly or at least a relevant spigot rim to site the rim - otherwise you will have wheel balance and vibration issues

The wheel nuts are there to hold the wheel on - not support the weight of a car - worse case senario - the wheel moves around on the hub under load (cornering, braking etc) - bolts shear and wheel comes off at speed!
Set of Spigot rings cost circa 10Euros - worth having IMO.

I thought so..seemed abit..well pointless to have spigot rings if they didn't really do anything..Mine should arrive in the post tomorrow or the day after. (fingers crossed!)

, I've done all 4 of my shocks without any particularly long sockets, pretty much standard size.

What are you trying to get at exactly that you can't get your socket to reach??

Was trying to get at the center nut on the top of the front struts - will try again today..maybe my sockets are just crappy ones - got them from a friend who moved out of the country, so I suspect they're just cheapy cheapy ones.

[Myfeckin FTO]

What model Proxes did you get Muad - Price?

Brand, Profile and Size: Toyo PROXES T1-R 215/35 ZR18 84W RF Rim-protection
No. of items: 4
price for one: 141.70 EUR
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Total VAT included: 566.80 EUR

You won't go wrong with T1-R's at that price Muad. Good high performance tyre.

The load rating of 84W is just below FTO spec (87 rec.) but theres not much in it.

[Muad_dib77]

The load rating of 84W is just below FTO spec (87 rec.) but theres not much in it.

Darnit didn't know that - will it make any difference? - Still so much to learn...

[RussMan]

Well just thought i'd add this.

Got 4 new GoodYear Eagle F1's fitted last Friday + Laser Alignment.

Got 4 Tyres fitted and balanced for €560 notes. i.e 140 per tyre.
Got the Laser alignment done as well and boy was my car out of shape.. The camber was over 2 degrees off on each wheel no wonder my car was handling like a banana.

Anyhow. I recommend Dave McCanns for the Tyres... not too sure on the whole Laser Alignment though as my handling is still off on the front... Leaning left while on a straight motorway so i may consider the other crowd... Can anyone refresh my memory as to who they are and where? Also if you've tried them out what was your results.. Will upload some pics of the job later.
Russ

[kevinod]

not too sure on the whole Laser Alignment though as my handling is still off on the front...

I found the same after my laser alignment was done last time, and I've seen several posts on ftooc with people saying the same thing. I'd be very interested to hear what the problem is with it if you get it sorted....

Oh ya, I assume those were 16" tyres for 140 each, right?

[kevinod]

The camber was over 2 degrees off on each wheel no wonder my car was handling like a banana.

Oh ya, was that on all 4 wheels or just the back 2? You're not supposed to be able to adjust the camber on the front wheels unless you get the camber adjusting bolts and put them in there.

[CJ]

Anyhow. I recommend Dave McCanns for the Tyres

Russman, did you ask DTAS for a quote while you were at it?

Kinda related, I was in with Rob on Friday getting my alignment done (had new track rod ends fitted, the toe was way out), he said that an FTO owner called up and was looking for prices, the problem is that the other guy (Tommy) wasn't aware of the FTO Ireland discount and gave out the standard price.

If anyone gets in touch with DTAS, always ask for Rob and mention FTO Ireland.

CJ

[soc]

Oh ya, I assume those were 16" tyres for 140 each, right?

They're 17's 215x45 (IIRC)

[RussMan]

They sure were 215/45/17's ..... They were able to adjust the camber bolts on the front end as i watched.... i'm convinced that he didn't sort out the right wheel while my back was turned the car came down off the ramp..... I'll let someone take a spin at the meet maybe you can shed some light on it!!!! maybe not??Where abouts are DTAs .. i did call them and got a fairly crap quote ... 60 euro more than DMcanns... Should of asked for Rob... woops
Has anyone done there alignment? I want to give it a go.

CJ... Track Rod ends? Are they the Rod's or bushings?

Thanks
Russ