Remote Central Locking

[Baldrick]

Hi,

I'm having a bit of a problem with my central locking. Basically, it's not working. Not sure if it's the remote (only have one) or the pick-up sensor and don't really know how to determine which.

Recently the passenger-side central locking has started to work intermittently. I have to peer into the car to ensure the passenger door is locked.

Add to this, I've to use two keys... one for the ignition and one for the doors and boot. All in all, a bit of a pain.

Anyway, I was looking on eBay for a replacement motor for the passenger side and came across this http://tinyurl.com/alarm-kit. It would solve a lot of my problems i.e. replacement motors, new key fobs, plus, I'd have an alarm.

Anyone any ideas on whether this is feasible? Anyone fitted something similar?

[CJ]

Baldrick, has your car got an alarm? If not, I'd consider getting an alarm, immobilisor and central locking system installed, you can get it done for about €250.

CJ

[gary d]

I would reccomend you get a cat 1 alarm and immobiliser fitted as this should reduce your insurance premium. The door lock actuator that are included in the link you posted are available from Maplin for £7.99. I'm presuming you were going to try fitting this alarm yourself, take it from me your better off getting a pro to do it. I'm a spark and I spent the guts of 3 days installing my viper system most of that time was spent pouring over the cars electrical manual. in short ballbreaker If your bothered by having to use two different keys, I have a full matching set of locks and ign barrel for sale if your interested?

[Baldrick]

Baldrick, has your car got an alarm? If not, I'd consider getting an alarm, immobilisor and central locking system installed, you can get it done for about €250.

No, I've not got an alarm. To be honest, I was mainly interested in getting the remote central locking sorted and came across this. The alarm aspect was a plus (it's probably not great, but better than nothing). To be honest, I'd find it hard to spend €250 protecting a '94 GR which probably isn't worth much more than €1200.

Can you foresee any problems replacing the existing central locking mechanism with these ones?

[steelroe]

The motors fitted to the fto are notorius for giving trouble.
If you use the key in the drivers door does the passenger side lock every time. If not then the motor in the lock is the prob. Do any of the doors close with the fob?

You can also test by supplying voltage to the control unit under the drivers footwell.

I can supply replacement locks fitted with brand new motors (on exchange basis).
Do some testing first though as fitting a alarm will not solve your problem.

On a side note when fitting an alarm to the fto you do not need to fit lock actuators as the locks are already fitted with them, unless of course you did not have central locking to start with.

[Baldrick]

I would reccomend you get a cat 1 alarm and immobiliser fitted as this should reduce your insurance premium.

As mentioned to CJ, I'd find it hard to throw €250+ at a '94 GR.

The door lock actuator that are included in the link you posted are available from Maplin for £7.99.

Yeah, saw those. Do you reckon the eBay ones would do? I'd hope to hook into the existing wiring for the central locking.

I'm presuming you were going to try fitting this alarm yourself, take it from me your better off getting a pro to do it. I'm a spark and I spent the guts of 3 days installing my viper system most of that time was spent pouring over the cars electrical manual. in short ballbreaker

Used to be a spark myself. I'd give it a go... it says it's DIY. Probably hand it over to a mate if I got into trouble.

If your bothered by having to use two different keys, I have a full matching set of locks and ign barrel for sale if your interested?

How much are you looking for?

[gary d]

I got 2 of these from maplin, as my drivers door wasnt locking when i used the alarm fob though the passenger saide did. door lock motors on the fto are notoriousley weak for some reason particularly the drivers door.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=12304

[Baldrick]

I got 2 of these from maplin, as my drivers door wasnt locking when i used the alarm fob though the passenger saide did. door lock motors on the fto are notoriousley weak for some reason particularly the drivers door.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=12304

Problem is, I've only one fob and remote central locking doesn't work. Not sure if the fob's the problem or the pick-up sensor. Also when using the key, sometimes the passenger door doesn't lock... sometimes it does. Previously had a look at Maplin for the motors and saw what you're showing. Then had a look on eBay and spotted this full kit which would give me fobs plus alarm: http://tinyurl.com/alarm-kit.

Big question: Is the two wire motor suitable for my needs i.e. '94 GR?

Thanks for your help so far.

Also Thanks for PM regarding locks... More than likely interested, but would like to sort this out first.

[gary d]

Cant see why the a 94 GR door lock motors would be any different to any other. Rory would probably be the man to speak to on this matter as i think he refurbishes the original ones.

[Baldrick]

Cant see why the a 94 GR door lock motors would be any different to any other. Rory would probably be the man to speak to on this matter as i think he refurbishes the original ones.

Sorry...probably not being clear. On Maplin link, they have two options - 2 wire and 5 wire (out of stock). Is 2 wire OK?

[Sebastian]

in maplin blanch there is a pack ( for both doors) with those motors . the price is 15 each or something like this .
afaik what you need is the 2 wire one (open to correction here.. )
fitting is relatively simple , disconnect the plug for the original motors , wire up the new ones then fix them onto the door (that might be a bit tricky till you find the perfect position).

[steelroe]

from what you are describing I am 99% sure your locks are the problem.
Download the wiring diagrams, figure out which are the lock and unlock wires on the control unit. touch a 12v supply of the wires inturn and see if you locks operate.

[Baldrick]

Think the passenger side is definitely a problem. Will try your suggestion.

Thanks.

[optical illusion]

I would reccomend you get a cat 1 alarm and immobiliser fitted as this should reduce your insurance premium.

I can confirm Cavan don't care if you have an alarm fitted, a wheel lock or a pittbull in your car.

[Baldrick]

I can confirm Cavan don't care if you have an alarm fitted, a wheel lock or a pittbull in your car.

You REALLY hate insurance companies... Don't you?

[gary d]

This will really piss you off then Laura. I just got my renewal quote for £346 fully comp with protected no claims, down £94 from last year

[karlf]

I would reccomend you get a cat 1 alarm and immobiliser fitted as this should reduce your insurance premium.

I can confirm Cavan don't care if you have an alarm fitted, a wheel lock or a pittbull in your car.

Thats true quinn dont take this into account but there are some that allow you money off if you have a CAT1 alarm fitted by a certified instaler. Not sure who it was but my sis's fella saved 10% when he fitted a Cobra CAT1 alarm on a Type R integra a few years back, I think it was with Hibernian. I'll ask him when I see him and find out the details for certain. Not much use to most FTO drivers as Quinn are the only ones that will insure us (well those under 30 anyway)

BALDRICK:
Paddy: I have a multi-meter should you need a lend of it. I've got 3 so you can borrow one if needed. As you used to be a Sparks you may already have one but thought I'd offer anyway.

[Baldrick]

I have a multi-meter should you need a lend of it. I've got 3 so you can borrow one if needed. As you used to be a Sparks you may already have one but thought I'd offer anyway.

Cheers Karl. I have one myself. Thanks for the offer.

[Baldrick]

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all your help and suggestions... much appreciated!

I'm just gonna close this one off and let you know how I got along (I hate open-ended topics).

Basically, I bought the above mentioned kit (approx €50 delivered). So I started off with this: Central locking, but no remote. Passenger side central locking sporadic. Add to this two keys... one for the doors and boot, one for the ignition. Basically a total pain in the ar$e.

I was going to tackle this myself, and the instructions supplied were straightforward enough. The weather was a bit inclement though and I don't have cover, so I got a mate to install it for €100.

End result... I've remote central locking (two fobs), an alarm and immobiliser. And all for €150. Basically I'm a happy chappie.

I know there are more serious options out there, but I think this is more than adequate for a '94 GR Tip. What do you think?

Again thanks for all your input/suggestions.

Paddy.