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Postby Dave » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:04 pm

What's the best to use, i usually get the mechanic to do it but decided i'd do it this weekend!
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Re: Oil

Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:26 pm

Dave wrote:What's the best to use, i usually get the mechanic to do it but decided i'd do it this weekend!


I use shell Helix Ultra 5W 40 fully synthetic - good balance - Find it really suits the FTO - there are better oils but they're impossible to find (Motul etc) - every Shell station should have the Helix Ultra in stock - 5l for circa €38 - not cheap but well worth it - it will far outlast the semi-synth stuff.
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Postby Dave » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:28 pm

i got some castrol magnetec 10w40 fully synthetic for about €20 or something like that.

I might be able to get this in bulk if people were interested??
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Postby Mustang » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:38 pm

Dave wrote
i got some castrol magnetec 10w40 fully synthetic for about €20 or something like that.

Not a bad price but I believe this stuff is semi synthetic? Generally regarded as quite a good all rounder oil.
I think the oil choice and longevity is more of an issue with the V6 engines.
I.e. trying to find an oil that will, reduce / eliminate the tappet noise, and keep them quite for as long as possible!
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Postby CJ » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:39 pm

Dave wrote:i got some castrol magnetec 10w40 fully synthetic for about €20 or something like that.

I might be able to get this in bulk if people were interested??


Thats a great price for GTX Magnatec Dave, I've always used Magnatec 10w40 in my FTOs and I can't fault it. If you're looking at getting this in in bulk, put my name down for a few.

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Postby Dave » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:41 pm

Well i'll confirm prices of course and there's no problem, the above may exclude vat, (i don't pay it :D )

let me know the preferred oil that you use and i'll see what i can get.
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Postby Mustang » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:41 pm

Dave you may want to check this link for some more banter on the subject
http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/phpBB2 ... hlight=oil
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Postby Dave » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:45 pm

I'll get prices then on 10w40 synthetic and semi synthetic and the different brands.
How's that?
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:57 pm

My mechanic had been using the 10W 40 stuff - but the last two services I brought along 5l of 5W 40 (A full service will use 4.5litres approx).
It may be all in my head but I just feel the FTO runs better and longer on the 5W 40.

SO if you comes across the fully synth 5W 40 at a better price - I'll take it off your hands.
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Postby Dave » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:06 pm

any particular brand??
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Postby CJ » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:11 pm

Dave wrote:any particular brand??


It would be interesting to see if you could get a price on Silkolene oils, they're very higly rated.

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Postby Dave » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:15 pm

I'll give the guy a ring tomorrow and get a break down of what they have and the prices.

shipping may be a pain in the ass, but that's something that could be worked out
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:15 pm

Dave wrote:any particular brand??


Would love to get Motul or Silkolene - failing that I'm open to suggestions but would have to be 5W 40 - good viscosity for cold starts - v important when your talking about caring for Mivec valves and tappets from cold.
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Postby zacob » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:28 pm

I was advised to use Dextron III. Have had no problems. I think it was about 45-50 euro for the 4.5Ltr drum.
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Postby Mustang » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:35 pm

Zacob wrote
I was advised to use Dextron III. Have had no problems. I think it was about 45-50 euro for the 4.5Ltr drum.

Indeed dextron III is the correct grade for the tiptronic gearbox.
However the above discussion is on engine oil!
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Postby AL » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:51 pm

silkolene , ive used before but only in motorbikes, i used the PRO grade which was very very very expensive :shock: , but id highly recomend it, would be interested to see how expensive it is for a car
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Postby Mustang » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:55 pm

Can someone please quantify expensive?
I was paying ~€45 for 4L (i.e. not enough for a full oil change) of Castrol RS 10W60
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:59 pm

Mustang wrote:Can someone please quantify expensive?
I was paying ~€45 for 4L (i.e. not enough for a full oil change) of Castrol RS 10W60


Presume the 10W 60 wasn't for an FTO?

I would say €10 per litre is relatively expensive but is what I'd expect to pay for a high quality synthetic oil.
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Postby Mustang » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:02 pm

Presume the 10W 60 wasn't for an FTO?

Incorrect! Yes I was using the 10W 60 for the FTO
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:45 pm

Mustang wrote:
Presume the 10W 60 wasn't for an FTO?

Incorrect! Yes I was using the 10W 60 for the FTO


I wouldn't personally use a "60" grade oil - a standard FTO GR would never reach the temp needed to make sense for this grade. Even 10W 50 seems a little extreme in the Irish climate for a highly modded GPX ( and the higher engine temp that goes with it). Thinner oils flow better and have better heat disapation (sic) - a 60 grade will always be too thick and will never reach the optimum operating properties that a 30 or 40 oil grade would reach.

Presume you have a theory though? Does it involve tappets?
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Postby adrian » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:13 pm

Well, dunno about the FTO but all the S2000 club members recommend Red Line Oil... 10W30 to be precise. Great for engine lub when in constant VTEC :wink:

http://www.redlineoil.com for more info...
I use it anyway and am well pleased with it.....
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Postby CJ » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:11 am

adrian wrote:but all the S2000 club members recommend Red Line Oil


The blurb looks good on their site, is it distributed over here?

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Postby Mustang » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:40 am

The blurb looks good on their site, is it distributed over here?

Indeed it does sound good. don't believe it is distributed over here. I used redline MT90 in my gearbox. Had to import it from the UK, cost me a fortune :x mostly in freight charges.
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:28 am

Dave wrote:I'll get prices then on 10w40 synthetic and semi synthetic and the different brands.
How's that?


Dave - Any chance you could price some good quality Octane Booster while you're at it?
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Postby Dave » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:39 am

yeah not a problem MfFTO, the oil is actually 26.11 ex vat, well that's the one i got but i'll give yer man a ring and ask!

any particular brand of octane booster?
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