rolling road result from today!

[miss-enzo]

well im a very hapy camper with my result

BHP:209.7 @7891rpm
Torque: 150.0 ft/lb @6531rpm
Top Speed: 160MPH!!!!

DELIGHTED!!!! will post a copy of the dyno sheet and vids later


Nice to see ya again Mark and CJ!

[miss-enzo]

in 2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3xLUQYTkj4

today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m451FdUH34o

[gfalls]

Impressive.. What mods, if any, do you have?

[miss-enzo]

Impressive.. What mods, if any, do you have?

ITG Induction Kit & Blueflame exhaust

[d_dan]

congrads great result

what did you get at the wheels?

[gary d]

New exhaust looks well M.E. almost chose that one myself, opted for 5" single. No regrets she gives a lovely roar

[gfalls]

Impressive.. What mods, if any, do you have?

ITG Induction Kit & Blueflame exhaust

I also have an ITG induction kit. Does that mean I'm going to get more horseys.?

[gary d]

yes the two mods combined would give you more "horsey's" than the individual figures for each mod added together. e.g say for talks sake the ITG gives you 4 bhp and the Bluflame 7 bhp added together you get a figure of 11 bhp. but both mods working in sync with one another could yield say 14bhp. Hope that didn't come across patronising p.s. if you have an induction kit like ITG important to have a cold air intake also

[Kace]

well im a very hapy camper with my result

BHP:209.7 @7891rpm
Torque: 150.0 ft/lb @6531rpm
Top Speed: 160MPH!!!!

DELIGHTED!!!! will post a copy of the dyno sheet and vids later


Nice to see ya again Mark and CJ!

Wow

That's 11 BHP higher than any FTO (with all types of mods <non-Turbo of course>) I've ever seen on the rolling road !!!

Was there any other FTOs there that got measured ?

[Sebastian]

blueflame catback and de-cat pipe ?

nice results miss

and congrats on your top speed !! impresive out of an FTO
i wonder if it can go any higher

(of course on the road it's much different than on the rolls )

[miss-enzo]

@ Seb ya he said 130 would be a more accurate road speed..... but sure ill never see that end so it doesnt really matter!!!

@Kace my car was pretty high to start with 196.1bhp with just the ITG filter on (which prob doesnt add or lose any horsies!) so i have a pretty good engine to work with i was expecting it to be about 10-15bhp higher and it was 12 so that seems about right.

@dan its about 160 at the wheels. how come your girlfiend didnt come yesterday? u getting the turbo dyno'd??

[d_dan]

cos we just broke up. ill get it dynod in tdp 1 day but for now the track is my goal

[miss-enzo]

cos we just broke up. ill get it dynod in tdp 1 day but for now the track is my goal

crap sorry to hear that lad. id like to get mine done in tdp too just to see if there is a difference between the two readings!!

[Dragonheart]

What year is your car M-E, I would have expected a car to lose hp through age, and I always thought that the larger the exhaust bore that it doesnt increase hp it actually slightly decreases it as the area is larger than the standard exhaust. The ITG I would have thought all right to push it up, I presume if its getting large increases its a cold air intake as a hot air intake can sometimes bring it down, (open to correction?) , but wouldnt have expected a readout of 210 nearly! Thats pretty impressive though!!

[d_dan]

iv heard extremes rollers are a bit generous. the best result i goi was 199.8bhp down with westward

[Dave]

All results are dependant upon the rolling road that you're using....

I'd have to take the above with a pinch of salt as there were no other FTO's to compare to, I had my car on the rollers in Westward at it came out at 333bhp, then went to CDA about a month later and it came out at 306bhp!!!

[CJ]

BHP:209.7 @7891rpm
Torque: 150.0 ft/lb @6531rpm
Top Speed: 160MPH!!!!

I don't wanna rain on your parade Lou but I can't help but comment:

I was dissapointed that that dyno operator wouldn't share inforrmation on what he did to get the power up so much on the second run, electronic genius or dyno hocus pocus? Who knows. Also, he had no explanation on how a speed limited car managed to reach 160 mph, I should have pushed him more!

CJ

[optical illusion]

Agreed, all sounds a bit dodge for an older car....

[Kace]

BHP:209.7 @7891rpm
Torque: 150.0 ft/lb @6531rpm
Top Speed: 160MPH!!!!

I don't wanna rain on your parade Lou but I can't help but comment:

I was dissapointed that that dyno operator wouldn't share inforrmation on what he did to get the power up so much on the second run, electronic genius or dyno hocus pocus? Who knows. Also, he had no explanation on how a speed limited car managed to reach 160 mph, I should have pushed him more!

CJ

CJ - you've also been to several rolling road days over the years and I think you'll agree with me (at least for Westward Engineering) that no FTO ever exceeded the factory specified 197 bhp output (no matter what type of exhaust, induction, fuel additives etc. were used).

We even did a test one day where a guy did a test with and without an ITG Induction filter on the car - the bhp reading went down 1-2 bhp after he put the induction filter on

Pity we didn't have anyone else there with an FTO that has been tested at Westward also. Sounds like the only thing here that will silence the critics is a return trip to Westward to see what this car is 'putting out' on the other rolling road.

[miss-enzo]

ill prob get it done some day in TDP too....

as for extremes being a bit generous, there was a lad there with an rx7 who was expecting 400 and only get 340....... and another lad who had previously gotten 350 and got 344 that day... i dunno really im getting my rsm fitted next month so might take a trip to tdp to get it done again...... maybe a club day out????

[miss-enzo]

Agreed, all sounds a bit dodge for an older car....

no offence now laura but did you not once claim that your car was 210bhp with just an induction kit?? my car may be older but has a well maintained engine so as far as im aware if the engine is good the ponies stay where they are!

@CJ i duno what he did either but it DEFFO revved higher the second time..... I have time it on the videos and all! Once of the lads reckons he might have done the first run in 5th (same thing happened to him and he redid it in fourth and it was right the second time) maybe the "plug pulling" was his was of covering up a fook up on his part!!

[d_dan]

i made over 197 @ westward

[CJ]

@CJ i duno what he did either but it DEFFO revved higher the second time

No doubt about it, the second run definetely sounded 'healthier'. It doesn't explain the 160mph quoted speed (although a derestricted GPX should be capable of this on the dyno).

As per Kace, its my experience that exhaust and induction mods alone have very little measured impact on the FTO's performance. I've only ever witnessed an FTO peaking at 197bhp - as I remember, this completely bog standard.

CJ

[Kace]

i made over 197 @ westward

How much over 197 did you make and with what mods ?

[d_dan]

arc airbox,
arc intake chamber,
hks cone filter,
apexi neo,

i got 199.7BHP and even martin said if it wasnt so dam hot on the day it would have broke 200 but was late 20's