VRT

[Dave]

Just onto the Santry VRO and got a price of VRT on importing a 95 GPX Manual 2 door coupe (Non-convertible????) and only cost €874! the customs and excise are charged on the price you pay for the car, so lets say you pick one up for 2,500 plus 1000 or there abouts for shipping and crap!

=3500
=>3500*1.1 Customs
=>3850*1.21 VAT
=>4658.50 + 874 VRT

=> €5532.50 on the road!

does that sound right to anyone?
i'm going to ring the tallaght office now and see if they come back with the same figure, and i'm also waiting on an email from the BASIS Project.



dave

[Dave]

Basis Prject advised to rinf the tallaght branch and did that, they don't seem to have the FTO listed!! strange i know!
and the one i was looking at is already gone so back to square one i reckon!

[adrian]

Hey dave,

That sounds about right on everything, well teh VRT does sound low but totally believable.

The ones on IDirect will never be there the next day you look as they are auctioned off. Try with a few cars, few smaller bids each day to practise and get to know it..... sometimes ones on the auctions crop up again in a few days if they were not sold. ONLY GO FOR GRADE 4, as I was telling you as anything less could have a crash history. That's what IDirect told me anyway.

I see we both have exactly 307 posts!!

Some price!

A

[Dave]

yeah, i couldn't really believe it myself, i reckon i'll ring the Dun Loaghoire office, get a price from themand ring Santry back to get them to confirm it, and yeah i noticed there were none on the list today, i reckon the one i'm looking at is in good nick, it's 3.5 but as i said before i'm not going to rush into it, that guy brendan from the english autoterminal was a sound chap, cheers for the contact!

oh i have one more post now!! !

[adrian]

Even posts again!!


The list will change each day and get updated fully at about 3pm our time....so if there are none in the morning there will be in the afternoon.

[kevinod]

Guys,

been doing some investigation myself (Gasoline FTO thread), rang the VRO in Cork myself asking about VRT.

Approximate model I gave, as I don't have an exact car lined up: 1990cc, 5 speed manual, about 50k miles on the clock, 1995, May(??). He gave me a VRT amount of €1698, which is way off the figure you have of €874!!

I got a price of just under €32k for shipped to Dublin and all, car itself cost about 2500 - so shouldn't the amount you start with be 2500, not include the shipping?

2500 * 1.1 * 1.21 + VRT (in my case 1698) = ~5100 on the road.

Kev.

[Dave]

just rang santry back there and basically they said that they can't actually guarantee a price because it has to be inspected when it's brought to the VRO.
she was saying crap like it could actually be a different model and blah blah, it could be a better model and this that and the other but basically because the GPX is the top model any differences should be a return to me!! and the only way it can increase is if they actually got it wrong.
but basically it won't be a million miles from that.

and i'll wait till this afternoon to see what they have, as brendan from the english crowd said, it's a pain in the ar$e and you have to wait around, and get the car transported from the docks to the VRO but it is a cheaper way to do it, and any cash saved will be going towards transferring the kit across!

[Dave]

well the tallaght office don't have a record of the FTO, she kept going on about the GTO, so i thought it best bet not to talk to her!

try the Santry office, the number is 01-8579800

who are you importing from Kev? the shipping costs seem less or maybe it's average price that's given includes shipping.

[soc]

I'm very interested in this thread - I'd be very keen to see how you go with importing.

Dave, Adrian - any chance you could email or pm me any links or details you have on the car auctions.

Cheers
Shane

[kevinod]

New Gandhara motors - www.gmjcars.com:

"As for MT car, it is not so difficult to find it but the price would be JPY350,000. I just checked it with our president who is in charge of purchasing.. Sorry I didn't know about this. We give you below the details for confirmation and the best price, C&FDublin(including shipping, ocean freight to Dublin).

(1) Mitsubishi FTO 1995 2000cc AT AC PS PW C&F Dublin JPY346,000
(2) Mitsubishi FTO 1995 2000cc MT AC PS PW C&F Dublin JPY436,000

If you designate only one colour, it would be a bit difficult to find the car."

I'll try Santry, see how I get on there.

BTW: anyone know how long it takes for a car to be cleared through customs? Is that days or a matter of an hour or so?

Kev.

[kevinod]

Dave,

just rang the Santry VRO, got the same amount for VRT - €1698, I'd check it again if I were you, or let me know how you got the 800 odd quote!

Asked about 1.8 while I was on too, €1415 for that.

Kev.

[Speedyboy]

If you know what your doing the car can be cleared in one/two days,

Good luck with the search

R

[Dave]

i just gave that crowd the details, 2 door manual, GPX DE3A engine. but even if it's €1698 it still only works out at under 6000. which is cheaper than you'd get a manual GPX over here for, there's one going down in Rosslare for 7500.


i think i'll go with the higher price, just to be on the safe side, don't want to under price myself and be stuck when it comes to getting it VRT'd!
where and how do you go about paying the VAT and Customs or is that paid in Japan?

i'm still looking into all this, not going to commit on anything just yet!

[Neil]

Manuals amount of VRT seems to be about double that of a tip so that probably where they got the 874 figure from...

from the VRT calculator on ros.ie:

MAKE: MITSUBISHI
MODEL: FTO ALL VERSIONS - STANDARD
VERSION: DE3A 02DR A / SPORTS COUPE (NON-CONVERTIBLE) / AUTOMATIC / PETROL ONLY /
MILEAGE: 62000 KILOMETERS
DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION(MM/YY): JANUARY 1996
VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX: €882

and...

MAKE: MITSUBISHI
MODEL: FTO ALL VERSIONS - STANDARD
VERSION: DE3A 02DR / SPORTS COUPE (NON-CONVERTIBLE) / MANUAL / PETROL ONLY /
MILEAGE: 62000 KILOMETERS
DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION(MM/YY): JANUARY 1996
VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX: €1715

I know manuals will obviously fetch more but double... jesus itd almost be worth it to bring in a tip and convert it!

[Neil]

On a sidenote what do you guys think would be a normal price here for a good condition relatively low milage 95 - 96 GR TIP at the moment?

6 grand or so? 5.5? they cant really be THAT much cheaper, can they..?

[Mustang]

Neil the revenue use some type of depreciation calculator, which takes into account age mileage, etc and to a certain extent market preferences e.g. manual being more valuable than automatic. I assume these figures are arrived at by taking the equivalent new car OMSP and depreciating the value each year.

Neil wrote

from the VRT calculator on ros.ie:

Quote:
MAKE: MITSUBISHI
MODEL: FTO ALL VERSIONS - STANDARD
VERSION: DE3A 02DR A / SPORTS COUPE (NON-CONVERTIBLE) / AUTOMATIC / PETROL ONLY /
MILEAGE: 62000 KILOMETERS
DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION(MM/YY): JANUARY 1996
VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX: €882



and...

Quote:

MAKE: MITSUBISHI
MODEL: FTO ALL VERSIONS - STANDARD
VERSION: DE3A 02DR / SPORTS COUPE (NON-CONVERTIBLE) / MANUAL / PETROL ONLY /
MILEAGE: 62000 KILOMETERS
DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION(MM/YY): JANUARY 1996
VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX: €1715

What you have neglected to mention here is the actual OMSP's for these cars -here they are.
'96 Manual €5718
'96 Tip €2943
These figures translate to give you the the VRT amount however they are not necessarily indicative of actaul market prices.
e.g. You are unlikely to get a '96 manual GPX (or GR) for €5718
Similarly you are unlikely to get a '96 GR or GPX tip for €2943 unless it's crashed and not repaired!
In this case the revenue's depreciation calculator is out of sync with actual market trends. You are unlikely to get any FTO in reasonable condition for less than €5k.




Neil wrote

I know manuals will obviously fetch more but double... jesus itd almost be worth it to bring in a tip and convert it!

I do not think that this would be a viable option. You would be looking at around €1500 for a manual conversion.

[Neil]

I do not think that this would be a viable option. You would be looking at around €1500 for a manual conversion.

didnt mean that literally, just illustrating the point of how out-of-wack the comparison in vrt estimates between the two seem to be