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Postby Sebastian » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:20 am

Will go shopping in the new year for 2 new front tyres

had Federal ss595 good tyres but i found them poor on the wet roads and now i'm trying to fin a set that has grip and good value for money.
any feedback of what you guys use?
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Postby Muad_dib77 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:39 am

I like..

Continental Sport Contact 3
BF Goodridge G-Force Profiler

in the wet..

I've also tried Toyo Proxies ( I think they were TR something or other) and they were fine up till the point where they'd obviously worn out...very strange feeling that...they went from fine to very very bad in the space of a week or so. - no grip at all.. but while they were good they were very good..however they were certainly best in the dry.

stay well clear of

Black Diamond
Champiro GT
Triangle
Stunner

Black diamond are alright if you're not wanting to accelerate brake or steer..be it dry or wet conditions..theres a consistent performance from these "tyres".

Champiro GT, alright in the dry as long as you dont do anything too sudden.. in the wet they're atroucious.

Triangle, very similar to Black diamond but with much less grip..

last but not least..

Stunner

the name says it all really... you'll be stunned by how much you can be asked to pay for what is essentially a badly made hulahoop..it has all the handling properties of a hulahoop... I'll say no more on that matter..


I'm stating the obvious here I know..

the tyres are the only contact point between the road and your car .. this means any mods, performance, brakes or otherwise essentially are only as good as the tyres one chooses to stick on ones car...

I've made mistakes in the past... but ultimately...saving on tyres...is a bad thing.

DTAS have a good selection, and if you're after something specific Rob will usually get it in for you... I understand a few peeps have bought from CAMSkill.
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Postby Bernard » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:34 pm

I've got the new asymmetrical Eagle F1s and can't fault them.
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:46 pm

Some tyres worth considering - ring around for the best price on any of the below and get them to throw in free alignment/tracking

Top Performance tyres -

Goodyear Eagle F1
Pirelli P Zero Nero
Bridgestone RE050
Toyo T1R

Value Performance tyres worth considering -
Falken FK452
Avon ZZ3
Vredestein Ultrac
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Postby CJ » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:49 pm

Myfeckin FTO wrote:Vredestein Ultrac


These fellas are gonna be similar money to the F1's and a great alternative - longer life and less road noise, excellent all round tyres IMO (have stuck 'em on 2 FTOs).

If you've a big wad of cash, I can highly recommend Micheilin Pilot Sport SP3's - best tyres I've put on a car - period.

Can recommend Toyo T1Rs, currently on the VR-4 - soft compound (i.e. grippy) but reasonably well wearing all things considered.

What ever you do, don't penny-pinch on tyres (especially if you're prone to spirited driving).

Compare prices on www.eiretyres.com

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Postby Sebastian » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:40 pm

Federals were purchased from eiretyres . fast delivery i must say .
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Postby optical illusion » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:18 pm

I just bought myself a set of eagle F1's.

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Postby gr fto reborn » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:25 am

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Postby fatboyfat7 » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:09 am

I'm on Potenza's, have nothing to really compare them too so I'm no good. I do find they could be grippier off the mark though. Maybe thats just the front wheel drive but its hard to take off fast without the spin...
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Postby Dragonheart » Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:02 pm

Bridgestone Potenzas for me, find they wear pretty slowly and are good on grip, really noticeabel when you change them first.
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Postby CJ » Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:49 pm

Sebastian wrote:Federals were purchased from eiretyres


Middle of the road tyre IMO, how much did they set you back Seb?

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Postby Sebastian » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:00 pm

CJ wrote:
Sebastian wrote:Federals were purchased from eiretyres


Middle of the road tyre IMO, how much did they set you back Seb?

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this was over a year ago CJ they were under 90 quid each fitted

http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/phpBB2 ... ht=federal


great tyres for the price but i feel now i need better grip on wet roads !
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Postby Mustang » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:37 pm

Sebastian wrote:
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Sebastian wrote:Federals were purchased from eiretyres


Middle of the road tyre IMO, how much did they set you back Seb?

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this was over a year ago CJ they were under 90 quid each fitted

http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/phpBB2 ... ht=federal


great tyres for the price but i feel now i need better grip on wet roads !

I recently purcased 2x 16" Toyo proxies from camskill, and had them fitted and balanced totalling €89 per corner. That was before the UK VAT rate was cut and the ar$e fell out of sterling. Given the exchange rate advantage I'd say camskill will be considerably cheaper than eiretyres at present.

At Maud I really like the thread pattern on the GF Goodrich G profiler -similar to the Eagle FI GSD3. And they look like a good 'premium economy' option but I thought they felt very hard to the touch, Yer man fitting the toyo's confirmed the same (relative to the toyo's now). IIRC he was offering the G profilers at €85 a corner fitted.
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Postby mcgon1979 » Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:25 pm

KUMHO.. Can't fault them. mid price, excellent wet and dry grip. low road noise.
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Postby Sebastian » Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:55 pm

mcgon1979 wrote:KUMHO.. Can't fault them. mid price, excellent wet and dry grip. low road noise.


oh about the noise the Federals are VERY noisy
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Postby CJ » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:54 pm

mcgon1979 wrote:KUMHO.. Can't fault them. mid price, excellent wet and dry grip. low road noise.


Had a set of Ecstas, very hard wearing, found they had good dry grip and OK wet grip...

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Postby mcgon1979 » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:25 pm

i must add, I have never had them on a track etc or driven hard in the wet or anything, but they were excellent for daily driving.
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Postby Muad_dib77 » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:43 am

Mustang wrote: Maud I really like the thread pattern on the GF Goodrich G profiler -similar to the Eagle FI GSD3. And they look like a good 'premium economy' option but I thought they felt very hard to the touch, Yer man fitting the toyo's confirmed the same (relative to the toyo's now). IIRC he was offering the G profilers at €85 a corner fitted.


That must have been a different size that what I had cause I paid a darn slight more than that for mine (or maybe there are more variants..) it's been a while now but I seem to remember that I got them for 175e each..

as far as I recall they were r18 225 35 but I could be wrong on that too..

cracking tyres all the same in my book..
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Postby kevinod » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:12 pm

Have Eagle F1 Asymmetrics on now, can't fault them. Tried Federal Super Steels, grip wasn't great, and after a while they seemed to go out of shape which caused vibration... Had Dunlop Sport ones on the 16" alloys for a while, seemed fine (had Eagle F1s at the back and Dunlops at the front).

I think they're the same as anything else, you get what you pay for.
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Postby Sebastian » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:08 pm

ok

so my list currently is something like that

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Toyo Proxes T1R -------------233e ... 151e
Pirelli P Zero Nero -----------243e ... 171e
Vedestein Ultrac ------------- 274e ... 182e


prices are for 2 tyres delivered .

will check my local garage and DTAS and try to compare prices .


is there anything else i should really consider ?
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Postby Dragonheart » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:15 pm

Potenzas or Eagle F1s?
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Postby Sebastian » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:25 pm

Dragonheart wrote:Potenzas or Eagle F1s?


i need 205/45/17 size tyres .. as for potenzas or F1's i can only find 215 or bigger ..

for pirelli i found 205/40 if i'll go for those will i notice any big difference in driving ( 45 on the back and 40 on the front) ? i mean understear ?
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:36 am

Sebastian wrote:
Dragonheart wrote:Potenzas or Eagle F1s?


i need 205/45/17 size tyres .. as for potenzas or F1's i can only find 215 or bigger ..

for pirelli i found 205/40 if i'll go for those will i notice any big difference in driving ( 45 on the back and 40 on the front) ? i mean understear ?



I found the ideal size for 17's on the FTO (on Irish roads at least) to be 215/45's. Don't forsee big probs with 40 on front and 45 on back though.

Out of your list above I'd be going for the P Zero Neros - lovely tyre in the dry (had a full set on a Racing Puma and they were fantastic) though its soft compound will also mean fairly limited miles.
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Postby Sebastian » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:02 am

Myfeckin FTO wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
Dragonheart wrote:Potenzas or Eagle F1s?


i need 205/45/17 size tyres .. as for potenzas or F1's i can only find 215 or bigger ..

for pirelli i found 205/40 if i'll go for those will i notice any big difference in driving ( 45 on the back and 40 on the front) ? i mean understear ?



I found the ideal size for 17's on the FTO (on Irish roads at least) to be 215/45's. Don't forsee big probs with 40 on front and 45 on back though.

Out of your list above I'd be going for the P Zero Neros - lovely tyre in the dry (had a full set on a Racing Puma and they were fantastic) though its soft compound will also mean fairly limited miles.

thanks shane

my problems are on the wet roads with the federals i have .

will keep the back (205/45) so cannot really put 215 on the front .
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Postby CJ » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:24 pm

Surprised that the Ultracs came out most expensive, mabe folks are copping on to how good a tyre they are ;)

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