FTO GR for sale

[julius]

Hello all FTO fans. A sad moment for me came as I need to say good bye to my loved family member FTO. One little person will join our family in the end of February and we need a family car.

I bought FTO in UK in April of this year and drove from UK to Ireland on my own. Car is registered in Ireland before 1st of July to avoid higher road tax. Since I bought this lovely car, I had to spend little bit to get this car running without any problems. Car has service history since 2000 when it was imported to UK. In August of this year front and rear brake pads been replaced (genuine), front wheel bearings and tyres. Two weeks ago I had to replace alternator and air con. pulleys as they started to give a noise. Timing belt was replaced at 92kmls.
Also oils in gearbox and engine been changed in October and all filters too. It is recommended to do it before winter time as temperatures changes.

Car is running absolutely well. Please visit website to see pictures and details of the car.
http://www.carhost.ie/index.php?section ... s&id=13150

If anybody is interested, please contact me on 0851641597.
Price is considered with interested buyer.

With regards
Julius

[julius]

Is asking price reasonable or too high? I just have nothing to compare of FTO of such year...

[colm_mcm]

Personally I think it's too high, given what other FTOs are going for lately. There's also no mention of NCT there.

[Sebastian]

for a GR in good condition i think that's the value

[colm_mcm]

Sorry Seb. it's all well and good saying a 95 GPX is worth 5-6k and a GR is worth 3 or 4, it's another thing actually selling one for that kind of money.
A tiptronic GR isn't the most sought after of FTOs, so it'd want to have a very fresh NCT and be immaculate to make decent money IMO.

[CJ]

Subjectively speaking, a car is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. Model desirability is also a subjective topic - horses for courses etc.

CJ

[julius]

I tried to pass NCT in September but it failed due to some rust on rear body where rear axle is mounted and catalyc converter being missing. Catalyc was bought from one of FTO members Sebastian and fitted. I did not tried to do some welding on the body as I do not know who could do it. Everything else passed. After fitting catalyc the sound from exhaust got silent but I still have the pipe which replaces catalyc. But thinking about emission I would leave catalyc on. If anybody knows who could do a welding job, I would fix it and pass NCT. I know that NCT plays a huge role on the price. I do some mechanical work since I was 16 when dismantled engine of my first car There is no workshop receipts about works carried out since I bought it as most parts I replaced myself such brake pads, pulleys. What do You think is reasonable price? Please feel free to comment as I'd like to sell a car for someone who cares about cars. I look after it very well as I did for all my previous cars

[colm_mcm]

I reckon you should get quotes on the body work involved, it mightn't be that bad. I'd be wary of buying an FTO that failed NCT on rust - and I'm sure any potential buyer would be too.

[julius]

I went to the garage to get the car lifted up and seen that rust myself. The guy said nothing serious but needs to some cut and welding job. Anyway I will drive around and try to find any good welder. I will keep updated on works and NCT. Hope when NCT will be passed an interested buyers will show up.

Thanks for the comments

Drive safely guys

[MY-JAP-MISTRESS]

i wouldnt ask any owners on here on prices for an fto or help in selling 1 as a few months ago i tried to do the same and had nothing but bad comments mine is also a 95 GR tippy with real good mileage baout 77kmiles now but 72 or so then. also mine has no rust at all and the bodywork is in very good condition aswell as having a good amount of extras and mods,nothing ott just improvements.

yes you can get an fto far cheaper but if its in good condition keep the price high....... dont know why other owners will devalue there own cars by saying you are asking too much. if people didnt sell there cars so cheaply then maybe the market value would be a little higher. after all the FTO is still a sought after car. i wouldnt dream of selling mine now as i know how clean it actualy is and how well it runs.

[CJ]

i wouldnt ask any owners on here on prices for an fto or help in selling 1 as a few months ago i tried to do the same and had nothing but bad comments

MJM, as I remember, it was pointed out to you that the price you where advertising the car at was not in line with southern prices (need to add VRT etc), I wouldn't consider that a bad comment (unless you're referring to something else?)

dont know why other owners will devalue there own cars by saying you are asking too much. if people didnt sell there cars so cheaply then maybe the market value would be a little higher.

I agree with you on this point but we have to be realistic at the same time - as enthusiasts, we will more than likely have a rose-tinted view of the value of our cars which is unlikely to be inline with the second-hand car market as a whole. As such, theres no harm to sanity check prices from time to time.

Back on topic - julius, good luck with the sale, suggest you have the necessary work and subsequent NCT undretkane in an effort to maximise your sale price.

CJ

[colm_mcm]

from what I recall MJM, you just got pissy when your claim that a GR and GPX had the same performance was questioned.

You were also looking for €4500 plus VRT (usually around €600) plus the cost and risk of getting it through an NCT for a 95 GR tiptronic (which you still have)

I work in the motor trade and have bought a few FTOs, I know how difficult it is to sell any car at the moment (just look at kenkeo's mint manual facelift GPX still not sold) If Julius wants to actually sell the car, it needs to be realistically priced.

[optical illusion]

from what I recall MJM, you just got pissy when your claim that a GR and GPX had the same performance was questioned.

You were also looking for €4500 plus VRT (usually around €600) plus the cost and risk of getting it through an NCT for a 95 GR tiptronic (which you still have)

I work in the motor trade and have bought a few FTOs, I know how difficult it is to sell any car at the moment (just look at kenkeo's mint manual facelift GPX still not sold) If Julius wants to actually sell the car, it needs to be realistically priced.

Well said Colm, I concur.

[TopCat]

I'm sorry to hear MJM feeling like that, so to try and hope my point it taken on, I won't even mention an actual price.
You don't have to be an expert to see what has happened to the car market, people just aren't buying in nearly the same numbers as a year ago, and prices are dropping rapidly in line with this. CJ's right in that buying a car is subjective, and this is particularly the case with the FTO, people buy it cos they want an FTO, and this is to your advantage. To really help your chances of a sale, get rid of as many negative issues as you can, ie get her NCT'd. It is a buyers market at the moment, you only need to look at roughly 15 FTO's on Carzone to see there are bargains out there (and that overpriced cars end up on the market for several months), but I did sell mine less than a month ago, so I know there are people out there looking for FTO's in good nick.
Best of luck with the sale.

[julius]

Thanks for comments to everyone. I know that it is hard to sell any car at the moment because of economic slow down and on the top of that - Christmas time. People are living now with gift ideas for Christmas and things such vehicles are left behind

Anyway, the fact is that to sell FTO I need to find a person who WANT and LIKE FTO's I know, that such person will appear after I will pass NCT.

Just to let You know that VRT on this car is paid (otherwise I couldn't get Irish plates and VRT was 720eur)

I did not made any changes on vehicle. Everything is genuine - even air filter I am 100% sure that to drive GPX is muuuuuch nicer but tip is also good. Is there any issues with tip as somebody in the forum wrote that tip's are not popular or something?

[karlf]

Not sure but you could try going to an exhaust place. I got a piece of pipe welded in for the exhaust as it was rusted. They might do it for you if its not that big of a job. I got my pipe welded in Atlas on the kylemore road, ballyfermot.
With regards to selling your car I'd suggest doing some research. Check on sites the price others are asking for similar models of the same year, condition, milage etc and price accordingly. Depending on how your car compares ask for more or less than the figures others are asking for.
I'd also suggest getting the NCT pre-selling the car. Speaking from my own point of view I wouldn't buy a non-NCT'd car.
Although in saying that you cant really be sure nowadays. I know someone who'll get you a real NCT cert (ie on the NCT providers system) for €250. And another who'll get a disk (not on the system, but would pass a garda check point) for €50