Induction kit for FTO GR

[stonchy]

looking for a good induction kit that will go on automatic GR. and if you have one how do you get around the air flow sencer been unpluged?

[paul2508]

you need to buy an maf adaptor to go between the air induction kit and the air flow sensor
see here....

[escu_calin]

and how do you avoid hot air entering the intake?
the damn box is there for a reason
i do not agree with such aftermarket kits... are just for show ! if u really need an upgrade ; aquire a high flow panel air filter that fits in the box, so only cold air enters.. not radiator heated air, from engine room

[paul2508]

fit a heat sheild and CAI ....ta da...

[escu_calin]

fit a heat sheild and CAI ....ta da...

what tada.. the idea is to bring cold air inside the engine...
the heat shield does squat if in the engine room is hot.. ~70 degrees at all times you can not shield air from air:)

[Bernard]

fit a heat sheild and CAI ....ta da...

what tada.. the idea is to bring cold air inside the engine...
the heat shield does squat if in the engine room is hot.. ~70 degrees at all times you can not shield air from air:)

The idea isn't to shield air from air, it's to shield from radiated heat from the engine itself.
Add to that CAI (properly routed) and you have all the cold air you need.

If the above is set up correctly you get all the benefit of an uprated panel filter plus a nice noise to go with it.

[escu_calin]

fit a heat sheild and CAI ....ta da...

what tada.. the idea is to bring cold air inside the engine...
the heat shield does squat if in the engine room is hot.. ~70 degrees at all times you can not shield air from air:)

The idea isn't to shield air from air, it's to shield from radiated heat from the engine itself.
Add to that CAI (properly routed) and you have all the cold air you need.

If the above is set up correctly you get all the benefit of an uprated panel filter plus a nice noise to go with it.

proper setup must have air from in front of the radiator or from outside of the engine bay !
i'm seeking for one myself... maybe someone saw one !(except the panel filter on camskill.. that seems the best upgrade yet)

[Bernard]

proper setup must have air from in front of the radiator or from outside of the engine bay !

Maybe you've got me wrong? That's the whole point of fitting CAI.
Here's one I fitted earlier...


http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9440

[escu_calin]

i can not see from the dark picture how the air is delivered from the front to the maf... how is the filter shielded?

[stonchy]

i can not see from the dark picture how the air is delivered from the front to the maf... how is the filter shielded?

can you not see the hose intake on the right of the reg plate?

[escu_calin]

i can not see from the dark picture how the air is delivered from the front to the maf... how is the filter shielded?

can you not see the hose intake on the right of the reg plate?

is rude to answer a question with a question; but anyway..
my question is not how the air got to the filter,, but how is delivered and how the cold air is separated by the hot air
i guess this thread is a dead end anyway, because all replays avoid to understand the point

[stonchy]

i can not see from the dark picture how the air is delivered from the front to the maf... how is the filter shielded?

can you not see the hose intake on the right of the reg plate?

is rude to answer a question with a question; but anyway..
my question is not how the air got to the filter,, but how is delivered and how the cold air is separated by the hot air
i guess this thread is a dead end anyway, because all replays avoid to understand the point

i can see your point.
your sayin from the time cold air is sucked in from outside it has to go tru the engine to get into it so how is it still cold ye!
my answer would be that it is traveling at a high speed so it does not get time to cool down .
also its more for the noise it makes more then the performance gains.

[Mitsumaniac]

That`s what you need guys... 1 side to the engine, other side to the flexible hose/pipe going outside the engine bay.



I`m with escu_calin ... if you want induction kit - fit it properly, it`s not just about higher air flow but temperature is also important.
Inside this carbon box is one of standard cone filters. About 100 euro without MAF adaptor.

[stonchy]

That`s what you need guys... 1 side to the engine, other side to the flexible hose/pipe going outside the engine bay.



I`m with escu_calin ... if you want induction kit - fit it properly, it`s not just about higher air flow but temperature is also important.
Inside this carbon box is one of standard cone filters. About 100 euro without MAF adaptor.

are you selling this?
if not where did you get it
the link thats there is for body panels.

[Mitsumaniac]

Don`t have them in stock but can get them easily so if there`s interest I can get them to order

[stonchy]

Don`t have them in stock but can get them easily so if there`s interest I can get them to order

do you have one fitted in your car?

[Mitsumaniac]

Had in my previous FTO, and trust me it does the job. Probably will get one for current car as well. TBH this threas has remined me about these boxes again.

[stonchy]

Had in my previous FTO, and trust me it does the job. Probably will get one for current car as well. TBH this threas has remined me about these boxes again.

i am interested but do have questions ye no.
how would it go onto the MAF from engine side if it, is it as simple as removing old rubber pipe and replacing it with the new "blue" one (as seen in screen shot)

[Bernard]

Those sealed units (while more effective) make me nervous.

You have no break in connection from outside the car right into the engine.
If the inlet is positioned low down, which it normally is, and you hit a flood or any depth of standing water it's sucked into your engine.
I know it's not likely to happen but still...

[stonchy]

Those sealed units (while more effective) make me nervous.

You have no break in connection from outside the car right into the engine.
If the inlet is positioned low down, which it normally is, and you hit a flood or any depth of standing water it's sucked into your engine.
I know it's not likely to happen but still...

hum very good point.
now im confused on what to buy and where to buy it !!!

[Dragonheart]

Grace had a sealed unit in the DC5 and was advised to take it out, as if any water gets in to the system wheres it going only straight into your engine as theres no break between the point outside the car and the engine.
I can't see the confusion to be honest about the whole CAI thing, maybe people are jumping the gun and trying to make it confusing for themselves, obviously its not going to be freezing cold, but exactly how much time do you think it gets to mix with the warm air in the engine before it gets sucked in. Personally I dont give a toss about this whole cold air feed and blah blah blah, as I'm not into big power gains but more for looks, so I have an Apexi with no heat shield, no CAI, but I love the noise, and I love the look. If I were you stonchy then I'd go with whatever you feel comfortable getting, you're not going to get any real power difference whether you fit a CAI or not, even fitting the induction kit wont give you gains, so just bear that in mind when getting one.

[Mitsumaniac]

well partialy agree with Dragonheart... there`s not much difference in power whether you hava standard filter or whatever else. These cone boxed CAIs do more difference if your engine is more custom tuned than most of us have.

Berno... in your setup (cone filter + flexi pipe from the front bumper to under of filter) theres more possible to wet the filter (from under the car) and catch any dirt.

I just say that if you had that boxed filter instead of naked cone, you can connect it to your flexi pipe and suck cold air from your bumper intake straight to filter. It won`t mix with hot air from engine bay.

One more thing... I spoted in my previous FTO that after I fitted this box, the sound of engine was more like "warp engine" in USS Enterprise which was really cool.

[stonchy]

i liked the set up of bernards car with the pipe coming out of the grill. i think thats what i will get.