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Postby ftomad » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:36 pm

are 215 48 18's too big for a gp VR does anyone tink or will the rub? ticking off getting them, maybe sum1 has had they and can tell me do they work please
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:47 pm

ftomad wrote:are 215 48 18's too big for a gp VR does anyone tink or will the rub? ticking off getting them, maybe sum1 has had they and can tell me do they work please
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Presuming you mean 215/45 18 - then I would say they are well over spec and are quite likely to rub off the bottom of the damper - really depends on the offset of the rim. I know Dave on here ran a not too dissimilar rim and tyre combo but the correct size for an 18 inch rim would be a 35 rather than a 45 profile though you'd likely get away with a 40 profile ok.

Personally I wouldn't bother with 18's on an FTO - I found the ideal size for a looks /weight/performance/ride/handling combination to be a 215/45 17inch rim - slightly over spec diameter but looks well/handles and rides well. And you'll be able to spend the money saved on better quality tyres.
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Postby ftomad » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:50 pm

Myfeckin FTO wrote:
ftomad wrote:are 215 48 18's too big for a gp VR does anyone tink or will the rub? ticking off getting them, maybe sum1 has had they and can tell me do they work please
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Presuming you mean 215/45 18 - then I would say they are well over spec and are quite likely to rub off the bottom of the damper - really depends on the offset of the rim. I know Dave on here ran a not too dissimilar rim and tyre combo but the correct size for an 18 inch rim would be a 35 rather than a 45 profile though you'd likely get away with a 40 profile ok.

Personally I wouldn't bother with 18's on an FTO - I found the ideal size for a looks /weight/performance/ride/handling combination to be a 215/45 17inch rim - slightly over spec diameter but looks well/handles and rides well. And you'll be able to spend the money saved on better quality tyres.


ther actually 215 40 18 i pressed 8 by mistake sorry
but u tink i could maybe get away with the 40 profile yeah?
i know i should be sensible but i love the look of the 18's
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Postby colm_mcm » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:08 pm

I've 225/40R18's and lowered suspension on mine, no major scrubbing issues. you need to modify or remove the wing liners and do some "work" on the inner wing to make it work.

I'd recommend 17's instead though
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Postby ftomad » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:56 pm

colm_mcm wrote:I've 225/40R18's and lowered suspension on mine, no major scrubbing issues. you need to modify or remove the wing liners and do some "work" on the inner wing to make it work.

I'd recommend 17's instead though


mivec.co.uk reckons the below so maybe il be sorted with a 35 profile
without having to do any patching up

Q. Can I get aftermarket wheels for the FTO?
A. Yes - sizes of wheels and associated tyres follow:

Rim Size Correct Tyre Size
15x6"* 195x60R15
16x6.5"** 205x50R16
17x7" 205x40R17
17x8" 225x40R17
15x6.5" 205x60R15
16x7.5" 215x45R16
17x7.5" 215x40R17
18x8" 215x35R18
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Postby Bernard » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:59 pm

Well I've 17x8 on mine with 235/40/17 tyres and no problems...
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Postby colm_mcm » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:04 pm

My 40 profile wheels are pretty hard on the road (that's 40% of 225mm) and I'm paranoid about potholes. 35% of 215 would just be silly!
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Postby ftomad » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:10 pm

colm_mcm wrote:My 40 profile wheels are pretty hard on the road (that's 40% of 225mm) and I'm paranoid about potholes. 35% of 215 would just be silly!


maybe silly but look dam good lol :)
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:41 pm

I would say to stick with 40 profiles and use spacers if the rims don't have the neccessary offset. A 35 profile on a 215 tyre is too little meat for Irish roads.

For looks its not that important to have an 18 inch rim - nice 17's with a 45 profile on lowered suspension will look just as good - as long as they reduce the gap between arch and wheel then thats the main thing:

Its more about lowering than rim size tbh - CJs lowered on 17's - Mustangs running 17's on standard: -


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Postby ftomad » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:03 pm

Myfeckin FTO wrote:I would say to stick with 40 profiles and use spacers if the rims don't have the neccessary offset. A 35 profile on a 215 tyre is too little meat for Irish roads.

For looks its not that important to have an 18 inch rim - nice 17's with a 45 profile on lowered suspension will look just as good - as long as they reduce the gap between arch and wheel then thats the main thing:

Its more about lowering than rim size tbh - CJs lowered on 17's - Mustangs running 17's on standard: -


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i kinda want these 18's so wat do i need to do to make em work?
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Postby colm_mcm » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:07 pm

depends on if you're going with 215/35 or 225/40 tyres
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Postby ftomad » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:17 pm

colm_mcm wrote:depends on if you're going with 215/35 or 225/40 tyres


thanks for all the help lads, if i went for a 215/35 i dont have to do anythin but ye reckon it wont work
so how bout the 215 40 profile
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Postby Muad_dib77 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:28 am

I drove on 215-35-18s for a while.. no fun at all.. did 225-40-18 and had some scrubbing on the front, but a MUCH MUCH MUCH better ride.
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Postby ftomad » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:34 am

Muad_dib77 wrote:I drove on 215-35-18s for a while.. no fun at all.. did 225-40-18 and had some scrubbing on the front, but a MUCH MUCH MUCH better ride.


did u do much damage to the tyres?
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Postby Muad_dib77 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:41 am

No damage from the scrubbing no.. scrubbing was only on full lock - after doing that twice you quickly learn not to go full lock again :-) easy enough..
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Postby Myfeckin FTO » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:30 am

ftomad wrote:
colm_mcm wrote:depends on if you're going with 215/35 or 225/40 tyres


thanks for all the help lads, if i went for a 215/35 i dont have to do anythin but ye reckon it wont work
so how bout the 215 40 profile


The 215/35 18 is the correct size and will "work" in that it will be close to correct diameter and will have minimum scrubbage - its just that you will have minimal protection on your rims and your ride quality will be sh1te.

A wheel with a 225/40 18 will scrub the wheel arches on full lock - will only damage the plastic wheelarch though and you will have better ride quality.

However 18 inch rims will only look good if you have them on lowered suspension - otherwise it will look like you're driving a 4 x 4. This will further increase your tyres scrubbing the arches unless you pin back the arches and perhaps use spacers if you have a rim with a higher than 34 offset. Rim and tyre sidewall design will also have an influence on how much the tyres will scrub.

What rim are you thinking of? What offset are you planning on running?
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Postby Muad_dib77 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:42 am

Myfeckin FTO wrote:However 18 inch rims will only look good if you have them on lowered suspension - otherwise it will look like you're driving a 4 x 4. This will further increase your tyres scrubbing the arches unless you pin back the arches and perhaps use spacers if you have a rim with a higher than 34 offset. Rim and tyre sidewall design will also have an influence on how much the tyres will scrub.


Agreed - I removed my arch liners completely - forgot to mention that above. It's not a big job though. But as feckin' says you should definately get her lowered - the difference in the looks deparment alone justifies it. I'd even go for the lowering before upgrading the wheels.

If you haven't bought your wheels yet - you should really consider getting 17s over 18s you'll stand a greater chance of avoiding the scrubbing AND if like me you're prone to go through a set of tires a year you'll save a few bob as well.
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